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Winter Quirks with Tesla’s Cruise Control System

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I use cruise control a lot when driving. Highways, back roads, you name it. My main motive for using cruise control as much as I do is to avoid the urge to speed. After all, it’s far too easy to speed in the Model S with its smooth instant acceleration and lack of engine noise.

I did a fairly detailed review of the Model cruise control system back in the spring of 2014 but it turns out there’s more to the story than I originally thought. The frigid New England temperatures have affected battery range and the ability to use regenerative braking but little did I know that it would also affect the cruise control system.

Model S Cruise Control and Cold Weather

Cruise control is designed to maintain a constant speed without having to use the accelerator pedal. On level terrain it’s pretty reliable in terms of keeping a constant speed, but results begin to vary when going downhill with cruise control on.

In most ICE cars, cruise control will not apply the brakes but will leave the car in gear allowing the vacuum of the engine and engine braking to slow the car down. Some cars will also downshift to further increase engine braking as a means of slowing the vehicle.

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The Model S on the other hand has no engine or transmission that can be used for engine braking. Because of this the Model S cruise control system relies strictly on the effects of regenerative braking to slow the car down. When regenerative braking is limited, the rate in which the vehicle decelerates is also limited which in turn limits the ability for the vehicle to automatically slow down.

Unlimited Cruise

Tesla Model S cruise control ineffective when regenerative braking is limited due to cold weather conditions.

In the image above, I had cruise control set at 40MPH but because of the limited regenerative braking due to cold weather combined with a down hill decent, the Model S ended up plowing right past the 40 MPH mark as gravity took hold of the car. I ended up speeding 13 MPH over the cruise control  speed.

Model S owners get to choose between standard and low regenerative braking but it doesn’t make that much of a difference during cold weather conditions since regen as a whole will be limited.

There is Tesla Life Outside of California

Some California Tesla friends were surprised that I was concerned about this winter quirk. Their thought was that the Model S would operate normally after a short warm up period and this issue shouldn’t be considered a big deal. They suggested I accelerate hard a few times to get the vehicle back to “normal” temperatures but that’s easier said than done when you’re dealing with winter road conditions.

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Warming 7,000 battery cells up to optimal operating temperatures takes time. Here in New England with temperatures well below the 40’s, it often takes 45 minutes of highway driving before regen kicks back in and can accept over 30kW. But more often than not I’m driving without regenerative braking because of the cold weather.

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30kW of regenerative braking is needed for slowing the car down. Anything less and the car begins to gain speed as it begins to roll downhill. How fast it gains speed really depends on how limited the regen is.

If you live in colder climates and use cruise control on your Model S, beware of this winter quirk or run the risk of picking up a hefty speeding ticket.

"Rob's passion is technology and gadgets. An engineer by profession and an executive and founder at several high tech startups Rob has a unique view on technology and some strong opinions. When he's not writing about Tesla

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Lucid denies rumors of bankruptcy after over 40% stock drop

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Electric vehicle maker Lucid Group has denied rumors of an imminent bankruptcy after a report from this morning sent the stock on a dramatic drop on Wall Street, seeing losses of more than 40 percent during trading hours.

Lucid’s Director of Communications, Nick Twork, responded to the report from Eletric-Vehicles.com, which stated the company’s restructuring advisor, AlixPartners, was asked to review two decisions: taking Lucid shares private or filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

The report also claims AlixPartners told the Lucid board to “concentrate on Gravity production while improving its quality, and to temporarily hold back the Lucid Air, the sedan that has defined the company since its launch.”

Twork said:

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Shares rebounded after the response to the report, halving its losses as the trading day neared 3 p.m. Eastern.

Lucid has struggled to get its sales off the ground and into more respectable numbers, but the company is in its early years, when things are hard to begin with. It is also backed by several notable investors, including the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF), which has nearly limitless money and likely would not ditch an investment of this size so soon.

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Lucid shares were down just 14 percent at the time of publication, a far cry from the 55 percent its losses topped out at during the day.

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Tesla owner attempts resale of Model S Signature Edition for over $260k

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A Tesla owner who purchased a Model S Signature Edition, one of the final 250 units of the all-electric flagship vehicle that the company discontinued earlier this year, is attempting to sell the car despite a no-resale clause that prohibits reselling for the first year.

The car is being sold by J&S Autohaus in Ewing, New Jersey, and is priced at $260,490, well above the $159,420 that Tesla sold it for earlier this year.

To those who do not know, the Model S Signature was a highly exclusive, limited-run farewell variant of the Model S Plaid that was produced this year to mark the end of production of both the Model S and Model X, Tesla’s two flagship vehicles.

Limited to just 250 units with invite-only sales, it serves as a collector’s item celebrating the legacy of the Model S, which helped pioneer Tesla’s electric vehicle success since its 2012 launch.

It bundles top-tier performance with bespoke cosmetic and luxury upgrades, plus Tesla’s Luxe Package. Here’s what the Model S Signature has over the typical Model S Plaid:

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  • Exclusive Exterior – Unique Garnet Red Paint, matching door handles, gold Tesla “T” badges upfront, gold Plaid and Signature badging at the rear.
  • Premium Interior – White Alcantara upholstery with gold piping/accents, gold Plaid seat badges, Signature-marked door sills, individually numbered dashboard plaque, gold puddle lights, special interior lighting sequence, and a custom Signature key fob.
  • Performance Upgrades – Carbon-ceramic brakes with gold calipers
  • Bundled Luxe Package – Full Self-Driving (Supervised), four years of Premium Connectivity, free lifetime Supercharging
  • Performance Metrics – ~1,020 horsepower, sub-2-second 0-60 MPH, ~390-mile range

Tesla quickly introduced a No Resale Agreement for the Signature Editions of the Model S and Model X, which would penalize the seller for “the amount of $50,000 or the value received as consideration for the sale or transfer, whichever is greater.”

The company continues:

“If you sell or otherwise transfer the ownership of your Model S or Model X, the remainder of the Recommended Maintenance, Wheel and Tire Protection Plan, and Windshield Protection Plan will transfer automatically to the buyer. The Full Self-Driving (Supervised), Free Supercharging and Premium Connectivity will not transfer with the vehicle and will terminate once the ownership of the Model S or Model X is transferred.”

Tesla will likely come after the seller, especially as it has been about two months since Tesla launched deliveries.

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Tesla Full Self-Driving v14.3.5 Early Impressions: new features and early performance

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Tesla rolled out Full Self-Driving (Supervised) v14.3.5 yesterday, and about fifty miles of driving on the new version has given me enough time to highlight what seems to be strong about the release and what is not.

Additionally, Tesla has added a few new features with this specific update, which we’ll highlight as well.

Tesla Full Self-Driving v14.3.5 Performance

The new update is business as usual. Things seem to be running completely normal and necessary, but there are a few things that we’ve seemed to pick up on based on our own experience with v14.3.5, as well as what other users are seeing.

Initially, it seems to be more aware of its surroundings, making moves that are incredibly courteous to other drives and operating just a tad more reserved than what the suite might have done previously.

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We had two instances where it showed this, the first being FSD needing to pass a Flagger Force vehicle that was placing down signage for the day. Their work truck was right at the front corner of a right-hand turn; typically where most cars travel when they take that turn.

FSD v14.3.5 recognized this, slowed down, and took the turn wide with no issues:

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Additionally, v14.3.5 backed up for a semi truck that was making a wide turn onto a road my car was on. This is not new, but it seemed to be backing up for courtesy; it didn’t seem completely necessary, but it might have put some peace of mind in the truck driver’s head:

X user Mike P, also a Pennsylvania native like myself, shared three clips of his Tesla running v14.3.5 performing similar maneuvers. He said:

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“FSD turns right into a small alley that only fits one car at a time, sees oncoming car, reverses out of alley to make space, realizes oncoming car is actually parking, re-enters alley.”

Check it out here:

It seems like Speed Profiles are still in need of some tweaking; I am adjusting what Speed Profile I’m in frequently, constantly changing it to get it to travel at the correct speed. This was an issue for me on v14.3.4. It seems like they’re just a little inconsistent.

Terrible Parking

Parking attempts on v14.3.5 were not good. There are quite a few people who have said this:

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David Moss, the Tesla owner who has taken multiple coast-to-coast drives without any interventions, also has had some issues with parking early on with v14.3.5:

New Features

Tesla has added the ability to open Camera Preview at any time. Previously, it was only available in Park. Here’s what that feature looks like in action:

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Check back later this week for a longer review of what we’ve noticed on Full Self-Driving v14.3.5.

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