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Cruise and Waymo’s driverless robotaxis divide San Francisco

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The California Public Utilities Commission’s (CPUC) decision to allow Cruise and Waymo’s driverless robotaxis to operate a paid service in San Francisco 24 hours a day could be considered as a step towards the mainstream adoption of self-driving cars. Residents of the city, however, appear to be divided about the self-driving vehicles. 

The signs have always been there. Even during the CPUC’s vote earlier this month, residents expressed opposing views on self-driving technology. Critics of the driverless cars argued that the vehicles were unsafe and their technology was not ready for public roads. Supporters argued that the vehicles have the potential to make roads safer. 

As observed by BBC News, a faction against robotaxis has now emerged in San Francisco. Members of the group believe that the city has agreed to become the site of a dangerous experiment involving two-ton machines and a technology that’s not ready for prime time. Some who are against Cruise and Waymo have even gone as far as intentionally disabling the vehicles. 

Over the summer, a group that called itself Safe Street Rebel started posting videos of its members “coning” Cruise and Waymo roboatxis. As noted by the group, putting a cone on the hood of a robotaxi stops the vehicle from moving. In a comment to the BBC, one of the group’s members, who opted to remain anonymous, stated that coning may be one of the first physical protests against AI, and such actions are going to become more commonplace. 

The Safe Street Real member noted that critics of Waymo and Cruise are coning robotaxis because people’s concerns about the vehicles are not being acknowledged. “We’re definitely not vigilantes. We’re just the community self-organizing to make ourselves heard,” the member noted. 

Waymo, for its part, has highlighted that its vehicles are safe, having clocked over 2 million miles of driverless driving with no accidents with a pedestrian or cyclist. The company also highlighted that so far, every vehicle-to-vehicle collision involving a Waymo driverless vehicle involved a human driver breaking traffic rules or driving dangerously. 

Cruise, on the other hand, has noted that it has completed three million driverless miles, and the company has a strong safety record. While this may be the case, some residents of San Francisco have observed that some of Cruise’s vehicles still make notable errors that inconvenience people. 

This was highlighted by representatives of garbage disposal trucks during the CPUC meeting, when they noted that the robotaxis often broke down and blocked their vehicles. San Francisco’s fire service shared criticism of the vehicles as well, noting that they have been obstructed by robotaxis 55 times this year. 

Watcha feature on Cruise and Waymo’s coming incidents in the video below.

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Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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Tesla Cybercab undergoes winter testing as Elon Musk reiterates production start date

CEO Elon Musk confirmed the timeline in a recent post on X, while Tesla’s official social media accounts separately revealed that Cybercab prototypes are now undergoing winter testing in Alaska.

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Tesla has reiterated that production of its fully autonomous Cybercab is set to begin in April, even as the company continues expanding real-world testing of the vehicle. 

CEO Elon Musk confirmed the timeline in a recent post on X, while Tesla’s official social media accounts separately revealed that Cybercab prototypes are now undergoing winter testing in Alaska.

Musk confirms April Cybercab initial production

In a post on X, Musk reiterated that Cybercab production is scheduled to begin in April, reiterating his guidance about the vehicle’s manufacturing timeline. Around the same time, Tesla shared images showing the Cybercab undergoing cold-weather testing in Alaska. Interestingly enough, the Cybercab prototypes being tested in Alaska seemed to be equipped with snow tires. 

Winter testing in Alaska suggests Tesla is preparing the Cybercab for deployment across a wide range of climates in the United States. Cold temperatures, snow, ice, and reduced traction present some of the most demanding scenarios for autonomous systems, making Alaska a logical proving ground for a vehicle designed to operate without a human driver.

Taken together, Musk’s production update and Tesla’s testing post indicate that while the Cybercab is nearing the start of manufacturing, validation efforts are still actively ramping to ensure reliability in real-world environments.

What early Cybercab production might look like

Musk has previously cautioned that the start of Cybercab manufacturing will be slow, reflecting the challenges of launching an all-new vehicle platform. In a recent comment, Musk said initial production typically follows an S-curve, with early output constrained by how many new parts and processes are involved.

According to Musk, both Cybercab and Optimus fall into this category, as “almost everything is new.” As a result, early production rates are expected to be very deliberate before eventually accelerating rapidly as manufacturing processes mature.

“Initial production is always very slow and follows an S-curve. The speed of production ramp is inversely proportionate to how many new parts and steps there are. For Cybercab and Optimus, almost everything is new, so the early production rate will be agonizingly slow, but eventually end up being insanely fast,” Musk wrote in a post on X.

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Tesla to increase Full Self-Driving subscription price: here’s when

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Tesla will increase its Full Self-Driving subscription price, meaning it will eventually be more than the current $99 per month price tag it has right now.

Already stating that the ability to purchase the suite outright will be removed, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said earlier this week that the Full Self-Driving subscription price would increase when its capabilities improve:

“I should also mention that the $99/month for supervised FSD will rise as FSD’s capabilities improve. The massive value jump is when you can be on your phone or sleeping for the entire ride (unsupervised FSD).”

This was an expected change, especially as Tesla has been hinting for some time that it is approaching a feature-complete version of Full Self-Driving that will no longer require driver supervision. However, with the increase, some are concerned that they may be priced out.

$99 per month is already a tough ask for some. While Full Self-Driving is definitely worth it just due to the capabilities, not every driver is ready to add potentially 50 percent to their car payment each month to have it.

While Tesla has not revealed any target price for FSD, it does seem that it will go up to at least $150.

Additionally, the ability to purchase the suite outright is also being eliminated on February 14, which gives owners another reason to be slightly concerned about whether they will be able to afford to continue paying for Full Self-Driving in any capacity.

Some owners have requested a tiered program, which would allow people to pay for the capabilities they want at a discounted price.

Unsupervised FSD would be the most expensive, and although the company started removing Autopilot from some vehicles, it seems a Supervised FSD suite would still attract people to pay between $49 and $99 per month, as it is very useful.

Tesla will likely release pricing for the Unsupervised suite when it is available, but price increases could still come to the Supervised version as things improve.

This is not the first time Musk has hinted that the price would change with capability improvements, either. He’s been saying it for some time. In 2020, he even said the value of FSD would “probably be somewhere in excess of $100,000.”

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Tesla starts removing outright Full Self-Driving purchase option at time of order

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Tesla has chosen to axe the ability to purchase Full Self-Driving outright from a select group of cars just days after CEO Elon Musk announced the company had plans to eliminate that option in February.

The company is making a clear-cut stand that it will fully transition away from the ability to purchase the Full Self-Driving suite outright, a move that has brought differing opinions throughout the Tesla community.

Earlier this week, the company also announced that it will no longer allow buyers to purchase Full Self-Driving outright when ordering a pre-owned vehicle from inventory. Instead, that will be available for $99 per month, the same price that it costs for everyone else.

The ability to buy the suite for $8,000 for a one-time fee at the time of order has been removed:

This is a major move because it is the first time Tesla is eliminating the ability to purchase FSD outright for one flat fee to any of its vehicles, at least at the time of purchase.

It is trying to phase out the outright purchase option as much as it can, preparing people for the subscription-based service it will exclusively offer starting on February 14.

In less than a month, it won’t be available on any vehicle, which has truly driven some serious conversation from Tesla owners throughout the community.

There’s a conflict, because many believe that they will now lose the ability to buy FSD and not pay for it monthly, which is an attractive offer. However, others believe, despite paying $8,000 for FSD, that they will have to pay more money on top of that cost to get the unsupervised suite.

Additionally, CEO Elon Musk said that the FSD suite’s subscription price would increase over time as capabilities increase, which is understandable, but is also quite a conflict for those who spent thousands to have what was once promised to them, and now they may have to pay even more money.

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