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Elon Musk sees Tesla ($TSLA) becoming worth more than Apple ($APPL) and Saudi Aramco combined

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Tesla held its third-quarter 2022 earnings call today following the release of its shareholder letter. During the call, Technoking Elon Musk said that he could see the company becoming more valuable than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined.

Elon Musk said that he’d said on another earnings call that he thought it was possible for Tesla to be worth more than Apple. At the time, Apple was worth around $700 billion. Today, Tesla is worth almost $700 billion based on the company’s market capitalization. During today’s call, Elon Musk shared his new opinion on Tesla’s future value.

“Now I’m of the opinion that we can far exceed Apple’s current market cap. I see a path for Tesla to be worth more than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined,” the Technoking said. Combined, the two companies are worth just over $4 trillion.

As of October 2022, Saudi Aramco has a market cap of $2.092 trillion, making it the world’s second most valuable company. Currently, Apple has a market cap of $2.31 trillion and was the first company to hit $3 trillion earlier this year.

These two companies that Tesla could overtake may have very different products but both can be considered competitors of Tesla. Tesla’s mission is to accelerate the transition to sustainability, as Elon Musk said tonight in response to one of our tweets. This translates to putting oil companies such as Saudi Aramco out of business in the long run.

Although Apple isn’t an oil company but a technology company, Tesla isn’t just an automaker nor just an energy company. Tesla is building its own artificial intelligence, robot, and batteries, and could possibly get into the mining business. These products are in addition to its EVs and energy products.

Elon Musk has said many times that he sees Tesla as a dozen or more startups. “Tesla is really a dozen or more startups if you look at all the things created from scratch that aren’t present in other car companies.”

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During today’s earnings call, Elon Musk pointed out that there are companies that only make batteries and do well, yet making batteries is just one of the many things Tesla does. The following is a list of products and services besides EVs that Tesla offers:

  • Solar and Powerwall
  • Utility-scale battery storage (Megapacks)
  • Optimus bot
  • Tesla is building the Dojo Supercomputer to train neural networks.
  • Full Self-Driving, Autopilot, and artificial intelligence
  • Insurance
  • Its own charging network that will soon open to non-Tesla EVs in the U.S.
  • Batteries
  • Tesla makes its own seats for its vehicles and although it’s not selling these, it is saving money by making its own seats in-house.
  • Chips
  • Services for customers, such as Premium Connectivity
  • In 2020, Elon Musk said that Tesla was working on HVAC improvements for vehicles and that the designs developed could potentially apply to HVAC for homes. In June 2022, Elon Musk said that HVAC is on a future product list.
  • Lithium & mining–possibly. Elon Musk has said before that he doesn’t want Tesla to get into the mining industry however, in today’s call, he said that Tesla would do whatever it had to do.

Disclosure: Johnna is a $TSLA shareholder and believes in Tesla’s mission. 

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Johnna Crider is a Baton Rouge writer covering Tesla, Elon Musk, EVs, and clean energy & supports Tesla's mission. Johnna also interviewed Elon Musk and you can listen here

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Tesla has one big financial question to answer for investors: Morgan Stanley

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In a new note to investors on Tuesday, Morgan Stanley analyst Andrew Percoco said that Tesla has one big financial question to answer for investors regarding its Robotaxi rollout, Full Self-Driving software, and Optimus.

Percoco said in the note that, for the most part, investors are still very positive about the direction the company is headed. However, there are some things the firm would like to see, and they have to do with financials.

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Tesla bulls are more than convinced that the company’s Full Self-Driving software is proof it can develop physical AI. Financially, however, there are still some questions, especially on elevated spending, which CEO Elon Musk said would occur as the company works to roll out Robotaxi faster and continue developing its Optimus robot.

The latter two are where Tesla will have to prove progress to investors, as Percoco writes that both projects “will require clearer evidence that Robotaxi is scaling and more tangible Optimus proof points to support the ROI on elevated capex.”

Percoco said the second quarter earnings call did not change his long-term thesis of where Tesla is positioned in the AI race, which is out in front. However, there are concerns that weaker gross margins and higher R&D spend will stress financials, and that has “sharpened our (and investors’) focus on measurable progress across Robotaxi and Optimus.”

Additionally, Robotaxi still needs to be proven with more operation in existing cities while maintaining safety but improving how many rides it gives in any given time, he said. For Optimus, Percoco wrote that he is “still looking for evidence beyond commentary around SOP.”

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Morgan Stanley put Percoco in charge of covering Tesla after long-time analyst Adam Jonas transitioned to the automotive side.

Currently, Morgan Stanley has a $415 price target on Tesla and a ‘Hold’ rating on the stock. It is trading at around $330 at the time of publication, which was 2:30 P.M. on the East Coast.

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SpaceX AI investment gamble will make it a big winner, firm says

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SpaceX’s massive investment in AI will make it a big winner, Argus Research said after the company’s successful earnings call last week.

The firm also upgraded shares to a Buy from Hold and set a $160 price target.

SpaceX (NASDAQ: SPCX) is currently recovering from its heavy AI infrastructure investments, as it spent nearly $16 billion in Q2 alone. The company did this primarily by monetizing high-demand GPU compute capacity at a much faster pace than traditional data center economics would suggest.

Company CFO Bret Johnsen said that SpaceX would be able to pay back anything on new deployments within a year.

There are plenty of ways the company can do this:

Leasing excess compute capacity through contracts

SpaceX has already built Colossus and Colossus II, largely for its own model training. However, much of that capacity is already rented out to third parties. It already has major deals with Anthropic, Google, and Reflection AI. These partnerships are adding billions per month to SpaceX’s spreadsheet.

SpaceX is charging Anthropic massive money for its compute

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High utilization driven by industry-wide scarcity

The demand for advanced AI training and inference capacity continues to exceed what is available for use. SpaceX can fill new racks quickly after they come online, so the capital deployed converts into revenue with minimal idle time.

Additionally, management and outside observers have described the new compute capital as behaving more like a cost-of-goods-sold than traditional multi-year capex, especially because of this rapid monetization pattern.

Capacity has already scaled from ~0.4 GW a year to 1.4 GW annually by the end of Q2. There are targets of more than 2 GW by year-end.

High incremental margins on the rental business once capacity is online

GPU cloud providers often operate at strong gross margins. SpaceX can monetize capacity that was already partially built or can be added efficiently. This means that incremental EBITDA margins on the rental revenue are usually high. This accelerates cash recovery relative to the gross capital outlay.

Parallel monetization of its own AI software and applications

Beyond pure infrastructure rental, SpaceX also generates revenue from Grok through subscriptions and usage, from X through ads, data, and other related services, enterprise APIs, and the planned integration of the Cursor coding tools acquisition.

These application layers ride on the same compute infrastructure and provide additional high-margin streams that could offset build-out costs. AI-segment revenue overall rose sharply to about $2.6 billion in Q2, according to Motley Fool. This was driven primarily by the infrastructure contracts, but the software side is also partially responsible.

Efficient, large-scale deployment and vertical integration advantages

SpaceX has emphasized the rapid construction of power and cooling infrastructure and favorable cost-per-megawatt economics relative to industry benchmarks in some disclosures.

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Combined with its ability to scale capacity aggressively and the fact that many contracts start generating revenue within months of capacity coming online, the effective payback compresses dramatically compared with more conventional multi-year data-center projects.

SpaceX’s dominant near-term recovery path will turn the AI clusters into a hyperscale-style compute rental business for other leading AI companies while still using a portion for internal models.

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Tesla headlights cause recall of over 20,000 Model 3 and Model Y

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Tesla headlights have caused a recall of over 20,000 of the company’s two most popular vehicles, the Model 3 and Model Y, due to the low-beam bulb exceeding the maximum allowed intensity according to federal standards.

Tesla initiated the recall with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) this morning, stating that the low-beam output “exceeds the maximum allowed intensity in the outer upper-right and outer upper-left areas of the 10U and 90U zone, as prescribed in FMVSS No. 108.”

Tesla sourced the impacted headlights from Marelli Automotive Lighting, a Mexico-based company. The recall impacts 2020-2023 Model Y vehicles and 2017-2023 Model 3 vehicles. It is estimated that every VIN in this recall is impacted by the defect.

Typically, Tesla would remedy recalls of this nature through an Over-the-Air software update, which has been a major focus of criticism by the company and its supporters because the NHTSA still refers to it as a “recall,” even though it requires no action by the vehicle owner. The fix is shipped over the internet and downloaded to the car.

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However, there appears to be a potentially different solution for this problem. Tesla has not developed a remedy for this issue, so it could potentially be on the way. The big issue appears to be the fact that these recalled lamps are out of production, and this is an old body style for both vehicles. The headlights and front-end designs are completely different.

Tesla switched to another supplier when the affected headlight design was discontinued. It plans to begin notifying owners of their remedy options by September 15.

Tesla filed a petition protesting the recall to fix the vehicles’ headlight issue, but the NHTSA denied it. Now, Tesla will come up with a solution to fix it.

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