Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) Q4 and FY 2023 earnings call comes on the heels of the company’s fourth quarter and full year 2023 Update Letter. Similar to past quarters, Tesla remained profitable in Q4 despite factors like reductions in the company’s average selling price and the cost of the Cybertruck ramp. Still, Tesla posted revenues of $25.17 billion and an 8.2% operating margin in Q4 2023.
Tesla highlighted several details in its Q4 and FY 2024 Update Letter. For one, the company emphasized that the Model Y became the world’s best-selling car with 1.2 million units sold in 2023. Tesla Energy also had a breakthrough year, with energy generation and storage profits almost quadrupling in 2023.
The following are live updates from Tesla’s Q4 and FY 2023 earnings call. I will be updating this article in real time, so please keep refreshing the page to view the latest updates on this story. The first entry starts at the bottom of the page.
17:33 CDT – And that wraps up Tesla’s Q4 and FY 2023 earnings call! In a way, this earnings call was quite smooth. Elon Musk avoided outlandish predictions (he didn’t even predict that Tesla would achieve full autonomous driving this 2024!), and the company’s executives addressed every question in a professional and objective manner. Overall, I’m quite optimistic about Tesla this 2024.
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Highlights
Our global production reached a record level in Q4, achieving a nearly 2 million annualized run rate.
At Giga Texas, we delivered the first Cybertrucks to customers, with production & deliveries… pic.twitter.com/hMXmY5CIxp— Tesla (@Tesla) January 24, 2024
17:32 CDT – Colin Langan from Wells Fargo asks if there are still some opportunity for Tesla to go below its current costs. The CFO noted that Tesla is continually looking for places where it can lower its costs. Taneja declined to provide details, but he noted that Tesla is definitely opportunity to reduce costs Musk joked that a 1% reduction on costs is roughly equal to $1 billion in savings.
“With good execution, it’s not a slam dunk, but if we execute very well, Tesla would be the most valuable company in the world,” Musk said.
17:22 CDT – Dan Levy asks what extent the Cybertruck is a proving ground for Tesla’s next-generation platform. Tesla executives noted that the Cybertruck is not really a proving ground for the next-gen platform, since Tesla is already far along in the development of its upcoming vehicles.
It should also be noted that the manufacturing machine that will be used for the next-gen car is unique, making it hard to copy.
Levy asks a follow-up question about Project Dojo. Musk notes that Tesla is pursuing a dual path with both NVIDIA and Dojo. He admits that Dojo is a long shot, however, since it is a higher-risk, high payoff program. He confirmed that Dojo is already working and doing training programs, and Dojo 1.5 and other iterations could be explored in the future.
17:20 CDT – Adam Jonas of Morgan Stanley asks if Tesla will hold an AI Day event this year. Musk noted that Tesla’s competitors have started copying Tesla’s innovations that are highlighted in these events, so he is quite cautious. He did note, however, that an event may be held sometime this year.
As a follow-up, Jonas asks about China-based OEMs expanding to the Western market. He asks if Tesla would consider collaborating with Chinese carmakers. Musk admitted that China-based OEMs are very impressive so they would likely see a lot of success outside China. “They’re extremely good,” Musk said. “If there are no trade barriers, they would dominate.”
He noted that there is no obvious opportunity to partner with a Chinese OEM, though Tesla is happy to help with the Supercharger Network and FSD licensing.
17:17 CDT – In a follow up question, Ferragu asked about what Tesla believes is its total addressable market with the company’s current portfolio. Musk stated that Tesla does not have a firm idea of this, though executives noted that in the automotive industry, EVs still comprise a very small portion.
Musk noted that cars like the Model Y are actually expensive vehicles, so it’s quite remarkable that the vehicle became the world’s best-selling car in 2023.
The $TSLA growth story continues… pic.twitter.com/VfwjUtInNx— James Stephenson (@ICannot_Enough) January 24, 2024
17:13 CDT – Analyst questions begin. Pierre Ferragu from New Street Research asks about Tesla’s cost reduction. He notes that the costs per car is going down over several quarters, which is good but quite normal industries like microelectronics. He asks if Tesla can continue its pace.
The CFO reiterated that he believes Tesla can maintain its pace even if it is a game of pennies. “We are constantly looking for what we can do to reduce costs,” Taneja said. He did advise that one should not project previous cost reductions.
17:07 CDT – A question about Cybertruck orders is asked. Tesla executives noted that Cybertruck’s constraint right now is production, not demand. There is also a good chance that the company could meet the Cybertruck’s existing orders this year.
Tesla executives also responded positively to the idea of including Tesla Energy in the company’s quarterly production and delivery reports. Tesla Energy should be included starting Q1 2024.
As for the preliminary results and return on investment of Tesla ads and education campaign, executives noted that the company is currently adopting strategies that focus on its cars’ safety, features, and technology. So far, these digital ads seem to be working as they are reaching people who are not really that familiar with electric cars.
Tesla is going to keep exploring digital campaign, though the company also does not want to overspend on digital campaign. That said, Musk noted that there is definitely some need to raise awareness among consumers, particularly in areas like Japan.
17:02 CDT – A question is asked about the timeline of Optimus’ production. Musk noted that Tesla’s experience with its vehicles would actually be useful since the company’s cars are already robots. He also noted that Optimus has the potential to far exceed the value of Tesla’s other products combined.
Musk noted that there’s a good chance some Optimus units could be shipped sometime next year. Considering Tesla’s history with its projects, however, it would not be surprising if it takes significantly more time before regular consumers can purchase a production Optimus robot.
“The team is dong amazing work,” Musk said. He also stated that Tesla is making sure Optimus is safe, especially at scale. He also noted that the barrier is getting Optimus to do something useful. “Gotta get the utility up,” Musk said.
Q4 & Full Year 2023 Earnings Call https://t.co/YxM7WA1LKe— Tesla (@Tesla) January 24, 2024
16:58 CDT – A question is asked about the construction of Giga Mexico and Giga Nevada. Tesla executives noted that Giga Nevada’s groundbreaking for its expansion already happened, and for Giga Mexico, Tesla has already started long lead work. But it is still taking it slowly.
When asked about other carmakers potentially licensing FSD, Musk noted that other automakers are probably still not believing that FSD could be real. But “some tentative conversations” are happening.
16:55 CDT – A question is asked if Tesla anticipates a 50% volume CAGR to be realized in either of 2024 or 2025. The CFO noted that there will be periods where Tesla won’t be growing at the same rate.
16:54 CDT – A question is asked about Tesla’s expectation for automotive gross margins in FY 2024. Taneja stated that Tesla is focused on reducing the costs of its vehicles in Q4. “This is a constant exercise and we just have chase down every penny possible,” the CFO said.
“If the interest rates comes down quickly, I think margins will be good,” Musk said.
16:53 CDT – A question is asked about Elon Musk’s concerns that he does not have 25% of voting rights on Tesla has been asked. Musk noted that he sees a path to making Tesla an AI juggernaut, though he also is wary of activists that infiltrate Tesla’s institutional shareholders.
16:51 CDT – A question about the barriers to ramping 4680 cells is asked. Musk clarified that battery production is a notably challenging endeavor. The Tesla executives noted that 4680 production is ahead of Cybertruck ramp, and more efforts are underway to ramp the batteries’ production even further.
“Definitely this year would be a good year for ramping 4680,” a Tesla executive said. Musk adds that Tesla’s 4680 project does not in any way affect the company’s battery supply deals.
Here's how Tesla's Free Cash Flow looks on a trailing 12-month basis over the past several years.
Q4 Operating Cash Flows were the highest in 15 months and a Top 3 quarter all-time. ? pic.twitter.com/AReROSDy7U— James Stephenson (@ICannot_Enough) January 24, 2024
16:49 CDT – Investor questions begin. Musk joked that he is often optimistic with time, but Tesla’s current schedule states that production of the next-generation platform should start around the end of 2025. There’s just a lot of new technology in the car, but it also includes a lot of new manufacturing innovations.
It would be a hard project, but once optimized, it would probably be a game-changer when it comes to volume vehicle production. Musk also noted that the vehicle would be produced at Giga Texas, since it would be easier for Tesla to have its engineers on hand for the project.
“We’re currently expecting to start production in late 2024. We will be sleeping on the production line. But I am confident that once it’s growing, it would be heads and shoulders above,” Musk said.
16:45 CDT – Tesla CFO Vaibhav Taneja takes the floor. Like Musk, he thanks Tesla’s team for their work in 2023. He notes that Tesla achieved record results in 2023 despite high interest rates.
Taneja also highlighted the idea that a lot of consumers are still not familiar with Tesla. Thus, it is pertinent for the company to educate as many customers as possible. The CFO also shared some optimism about Tesla Energy, whose growth should outpace the company’s automotive business this year.
“We are currently expecting our capital expenditure this 2024 to be in excess of $10 billion,” the CFO noted.
16:40 CDT – Musk states that Tesla is in the middle of its second growth wave. This wave, as per the Q4 and FY 2023 Update Letter, would likely be driven by the next-generation platform. Musk also noted that FSD V12 should be available to regular customers in the near future.
“Tesla is the most efficient company at AI inference. We’re quite far in regards to other companies in the world in terms of AI inference,” Musk said.
He also discusses the upgraded Tesla Model 3, a car that Musk noted would be great to test drive. He also noted that Tesla is far along in the development of its next-generation platform. Musk noted that the vehicle would start its production at Giga Texas, followed by other sites like Giga Mexico and other locations. “We’re very excited about [Tesla’s next vehicle.]” Musk said.
Summing up his remarks, Musk reiterated that he sees a path to Tesla becoming the world’s most valuable company.
16:35 CDT – Elon Musk starts his opening remarks. He states that the Tesla team did a stellar job in 2023, with the company hitting an annualized run rate of 2 million vehicles per year near the end of Q4. The Fremont Factory also produced 560,000 cars in 2023, making it the highest productivity car plant in the United States.
“It was there when we got it, and now it’s the most productive plant on this side of the world. It’s enriched the community in so many ways. It’s really a gem,” Musk said. “I’m super proud of the people that work there.”
He also noted that the Model Y became the world’s best selling car in the world with over 1.2 million units sold in 2023. FCF is notable as well.
16:34 CDT – Tesla VP of IR Martin Viecha opens the call. He introduces Elon Musk and other Tesla executives.
16:32 CDT – Ok, it’s past 16:30 CDT and the call hasn’t started yet. Elon Time?
16:25 CDT – The ambient music begins in Tesla’s stream for the Q4 and FY 2023 earnings call. Will it start on time, in three minutes? We shall see.
16:15 CDT – Hello, everyone, and welcome to our live blog of Tesla’s fourth-quarter and full-year 2023 earnings call. Tesla missed analyst estimates for a number of key metrics, and it shows in the after-market performance of TSLA shares. Despite this, it is difficult to deny that the electric vehicle maker had an impressive 2023, with the company meeting its vehicle delivery goal of 1.8 million vehicles and the Cybertruck finally starting its customer deliveries.
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Tesla and SpaceX merger talks hit a new stage, and one hurdle remains
Tesla and SpaceX merger talks are reportedly advancing, and a deal could arrive by December.
Tesla and SpaceX are moving closer to a combination, with a deal announcement possible as soon as December, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter. The companies have also discussed a scenario in which the announcement slips into early 2027.
Boards and advisers on both sides are now working through the terms of the deal and the governance structure of the combined company, according to the report. One open item is how many SpaceX shares Tesla investors would receive. Bloomberg had previously reported that the two companies were aiming to announce a deal in the first half of next year and close it before the end of President Donald Trump’s term, so a December announcement would pull that schedule forward by months.
Tesla shares rose as much as 1.9% to $398.35 after the report, while SpaceX gained 0.6% to $140.63. SpaceX carries a market value of about $1.9 trillion following its June IPO, and Tesla is valued at about $1.55 trillion, which would make a combination the largest corporate deal on record. Neither company responded to requests for comment.
The talks became official on October 20, when Elon Musk said on SpaceX’s third quarter earnings call that both companies had formed special committees of independent directors to study a merger, as Teslarati reported. Musk said he could not take part because he is “a conflicted party” and called the process “an odd kabuki dance.” He also noted that Tesla would need approval from 50 percent of all outstanding shares, a bar the company missed in 2025 when a board declassification proposal won support from only 39.4 percent.
China remains the biggest structural problem. Bloomberg’s sources said the companies still need to work out how to isolate Tesla’s large and profitable manufacturing business in China from SpaceX’s U.S. government and defense contracts. JPMorgan analyst Rajat Gupta described those two factors last month as “key dynamics that are at odds with each other” for regulatory and shareholder approval. Musk has repeatedly said Tesla has no plans to separate its China business, a position he restated in August after ARK Invest predicted a merger announcement before the end of the year.
Washington adds another layer. Democrats took control of Congress in this month’s midterms and have pledged to investigate Musk’s business and political activities, which could bring added scrutiny to a deal involving one of the Pentagon’s most important launch and satellite contractors.
The report also lands three weeks before Tesla’s December 3 annual meeting at Giga Texas. That ballot has only three items, led by the re-election of Musk, board chair Robyn Denholm and JB Straubel, and includes no merger proposal. Any deal announced in December would likely require a separate special meeting for Tesla shareholders to vote on it.
The two companies already share a growing list of projects, including the Terafab semiconductor plant in Texas. Tesla’s next generation Roadster, which uses cold gas thrusters built on SpaceX hardware, turned up on display at SpaceX headquarters last month and has become one of the clearest public examples of that overlap.
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Nvidia’s board meets on Jensen Huang, and Elon Musk already has an answer
Elon Musk says it would be an honor to hire Jensen Huang amid Nvidia turmoil.
Elon Musk says he would welcome Jensen Huang at one of his companies if Nvidia’s board decides to push out its longtime chief executive.
On Wednesday evening, the financial account ZeroHedge posted “Elon please hire Jensen” on X. Musk replied roughly two hours later: “That would be an honor.” Neither Huang nor Nvidia had responded publicly as of Wednesday night.
Musk’s reply came as Nvidia’s board met to decide Huang’s future. The Wall Street Journal reported that directors were preparing to oust him following reports of two extramarital relationships. One involves Alice Huang, a Singapore-based businesswoman whom U.S. intelligence officials reportedly believe was working for China’s Ministry of State Security. The New York Times separately reported a relationship with Kimberly Powell, Nvidia’s vice president of health care. Huang acknowledged being unfaithful in a memo to employees on Sunday but gave no details.
@zerohedge That would be an honor
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 12, 2026
Under Nvidia’s bylaws, a majority of its 11 directors can remove the CEO with or without cause. Bloomberg reported that the board has been working with an outside firm on possible replacements and may name an interim chief, with CFO Colette Kress seen as the likely pick. Nvidia shares fell more than 8 percent in extended trading, according to CNBC, and the company is scheduled to report quarterly earnings on November 17.
Musk has more riding on Nvidia’s leadership than most tech executives. In August, he told investors on SpaceX’s first earnings call as a public company that it would build its AI infrastructure exclusively on Nvidia hardware, calling Vera Rubin “the best architecture.” SpaceX is also working with Nvidia on the compute payload for Starmind, its planned orbital AI constellation. In October, SpaceX said it had a binding commitment for a roughly $40 billion lease of Vera Rubin GPUs and related equipment, with the leases expected to begin in the first half of 2027.
The scale of that dependence is already enormous. On its Q3 call, SpaceX said it was bringing roughly 200,000 to 220,000 Nvidia GB300 GPUs online each month and expects 2.5 to 3 GW of nameplate compute by the end of the year. That buildout is now reaching new sites like the proposed $24 billion power plant and supercomputer campus at Starbase.
The relationship between the two executives also goes back nearly a decade. Huang has often told the story of personally delivering Nvidia’s first DGX-1 AI supercomputer to Musk in 2016, when no other customer wanted one. “Nobody wanted to be part of it, except for Elon,” Huang said on the Joe Rogan Experience last December.
Musk did not say what role Huang might fill, and his reply stops short of a formal offer. Huang co-founded Nvidia in 1993 and still owns about 3.6 percent of its stock, so any move to a Musk company would depend on whether, and how, he leaves the chipmaker he has run for more than three decades.
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SpaceX’s Anthropic deal has a catch, and Elon Musk just addressed it
Elon Musk says SpaceX’s Anthropic compute deal cuts both ways after Chamath floats higher prices.
Elon Musk pushed back on Sunday against the idea that SpaceX’s compute contract with Anthropic is a one way bet, after venture capitalist Chamath Palihapitiya argued the company could use a termination clause to charge the AI lab far more.
“It works both ways, of course. If compute becomes plentiful and cheap, SpaceX revenue will drop. No crying in the casino for either party,” Musk wrote on X Sunday evening, replying to a clip of Palihapitiya’s comments shared by AI commentator Rohan Paul.
On the All-In podcast released Sunday, Palihapitiya said either side can walk away from the agreement on 90 days’ notice. If data center supply tightens, he argued, SpaceX could exercise that option and bring the contract back at two to three times the current price, and Anthropic would have little choice but to accept. He called it “the kingmaking move,” according to BigGo Finance.
The clause itself is not new. SpaceX disclosed in its IPO filings in May that Anthropic would pay $1.25 billion per month for dedicated capacity at its Colossus clusters through May 2029, nearly $45 billion in total, with both companies able to terminate on 90 days’ notice, as Teslarati reported at the time. SpaceX’s later compute deals with Google and Reflection AI carry similar exit terms.
What has changed is the political backdrop. Palihapitiya’s thesis rests on incoming Democratic governors pulling tax incentives for data centers and slowing new construction. In Texas, Gov.-elect Gina Hinojosa campaigned on a moratorium on new data center approvals, and Deutsche Bank analysts warned last week that SpaceX’s Texas compute capacity could face delays. SpaceX and Tesla shares both fell after the midterm results.
A slowdown would favor companies that already own capacity. SpaceX acquired xAI in February and has been renting data centers to outside AI labs before the space is needed for Grok. At the Baron Investment Conference on Friday, Musk said SpaceX was “getting 50 billion a year for 35 billion dollar investments” and that it can bring a data center online in eight or nine months, compared to two and a half years for competitors. He also said SpaceX is tracking toward an annualized revenue rate above $100 billion in December, with a “best guess” of $500 billion by December 2027.
Musk’s reply points to the other side of the clause. Anthropic has signed large compute agreements with Amazon, Google and Microsoft, and if that capacity comes online faster than new construction slows, the AI lab would have its own leverage to renegotiate or leave. Musk has called Anthropic “obviously currently the leader in AI,” and it remains one of SpaceX’s largest compute customers.
SpaceX shares rose more than 2 percent in overnight trading late Sunday after closing Friday at $134.27, according to Stocktwits.
Tesla and SpaceX merger talks hit a new stage, and one hurdle remains
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