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Tesla’s Elon Musk warns and shares advice to Rivian and Lucid about mass production

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The electric vehicle landscape is getting more and more crowded, with new companies such as Lucid Motors and Rivian Automotive expected to deliver their first production vehicles to customers soon. Amidst this momentum, and as Rivian aims to go public with an impressive target valuation, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has posted some advice — and a warning of sorts — to the newcomers of the mass EV market. 

Musk’s initial thoughts about new electric car makers came as a response to Tesla bull Warren Redlich, who posted an image highlighting that both Lucid and Rivian are actually yet to deliver a legitimate production vehicle to customers. This contrasts greatly with what happened to Tesla, since the company had already delivered about 1,400 Roadsters before it went public on June 29, 2010 at $17 per share. 

Rivian’s filings have revealed that the company is looking to get a valuation of about $80 billion when it goes public. This is quite substantial considering that the only deliveries of the R1T pickup truck that have been reported so far were to company employees. A recent report from Bloomberg noted that Rivian is looking to focus its deliveries this year on its Amazon electric delivery van, which would likely result in R1T deliveries being very conservative in the near future.

Lucid is a bit on the same boat, as the company has gone public without first delivering its highly-anticipated Air luxury sedan. So far, Lucid has stated that it is looking to start deliveries of the Air in late October. However, Lucid is only planning on producing 577 Air sedans in 2021, as per a Forbes report.

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Commenting on the valuation of Lucid and Rivian, Elon Musk added that “(Is) it possible to start an EV company without shipping any cars & get a valuation less than a billion dollars!?” In a later post on Twitter, Musk shared more of his thoughts. According to the Tesla CEO, he is hoping that the newcomers to the EV sphere have a high tolerance for pain since scaling production, managing the supply chain, logistics, and service is a “world of hurt.”

This is not the first time that Elon Musk has posted a warning about the challenges of mass production. During the Q2 2021 earnings call, Musk reiterated these thoughts while describing how difficult it was to actually ramp the production of Tesla’s 4680 battery cells. Musk noted that in the 4680 batteries’ case, producing them in prototype form was incredibly easy, but ramping their output to a meaningful level was a completely different beast altogether. 

“Limited production is easy, prototype production is easy but high-volume production is hard. There are a number of challenges in transitioning from sort of small-scale production to a large volume production,” Musk said. Considering Tesla’s experiences with “production hell” when it was ramping the Model 3, upcoming EV makers such as Rivian and Lucid would be wise to take note of Musk’s warnings and advice. 

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Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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Anti-Tesla union leader ditches X, urges use of Threads instead

Tesla Sweden and IF Metall have been engaged in a bitter dispute for over two years now. 

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Marie Nilsson, chair of Sweden’s IF Metall union and a prominent critic of Tesla, has left X and is urging audiences to follow the union on Meta’s Threads instead.

Tesla Sweden and IF Metall have been engaged in a bitter dispute for over two years now. 

Anti-Tesla union leader exits X

In a comment to Dagens Arbete (DA), Nilsson noted that her exit from X is not formally tied to IF Metall’s long-running labor dispute with Tesla Sweden. Still, she stated that her departure is affected by changes to the platform under Elon Musk’s leadership.

“We have stayed because many journalists pick up news there. But as more and more people have left X, we have felt that the standard has now been reached on that platform,” she said. 

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Jesper Pettersson, press officer at IF Metall, highlighted that the union’s departure from X is only indirectly linked to Tesla Sweden and Elon Musk. “Indirectly it does, since there is a lot of evidence that his ownership has caused the change in the platform to be so significant. 

“We have nevertheless assessed that the platform had value for reaching journalists, politicians and other opinion leaders. But it is a microscopic proportion of the public and our members who are there, and now that value has decreased,” Petterson added.

IF Metall sees Threads as an X alternative

After leaving X, IF Metall has begun using Threads, Meta’s alternative to the social media platform. The union described the move as experimental, noting that it is still evaluating how effective the platform will be for outreach and visibility.

Pettersson acknowledged that Meta also does not operate under Sweden’s collective bargaining model, but said the union sees little alternative if it wants to remain visible online.

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“In a perfect world, all large international companies would be supporters of the Swedish model when they come here. But unfortunately, the reality is not like that. If we are to be visible at all in this social media world, we have to play by the rules of the game. The alternative would be to become completely invisible, and that would not benefit our members,” he said. 

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Elon Musk confirms SpaceX is not developing a phone

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Despite many recent rumors and various reports, Elon Musk confirmed today that SpaceX is not developing a phone based on Starlink, not once, but twice.

Today’s report from Reuters cited people familiar with the matter and stated internal discussions have seen SpaceX executives mulling the idea of building a mobile device that would connect directly to the Starlink satellite constellation.

Musk did state in late January that SpaceX developing a phone was “not out of the question at some point.” However, He also said it would have to be a major difference from current phones, and would be optimized “purely for running max performance/watt neural nets.”

While Musk said it was not out of the question “at some point,” that does not mean it is currently a project SpaceX is working on. The CEO reaffirmed this point twice on X this afternoon.

Musk said, “Reuters lies relentlessly,” in one post. In the next, he explicitly stated, “We are not developing a phone.”

Musk has basically always maintained that SpaceX has too many things going on, denying that a phone would be in the realm of upcoming projects. There are too many things in the works for Musk’s space exploration company, most notably the recent merger with xAI.

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A Starlink phone would be an excellent idea, especially considering that SpaceX operates 9,500 satellites, serving over 9 million users worldwide. 650 of those satellites are dedicated to the company’s direct-to-device initiative, which provides cellular coverage on a global scale.

Nevertheless, there is the potential that the Starlink phone eventually become a project SpaceX works on. However, it is not currently in the scope of what the company needs to develop, so things are more focused on that as of right now.

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Tesla adds notable improvement to Dashcam feature

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Tesla has added a notable improvement to its Dashcam feature after complaints from owners have pushed the company to make a drastic change.

Perhaps one of the biggest frustrations that Tesla owners have communicated regarding the Dashcam feature is the lack of ability to retain any more than 60 minutes of driving footage before it is overwritten.

It does not matter what size USB jump drive is plugged into the vehicle. 60 minutes is all it will hold until new footage takes over the old. This can cause some issues, especially if you were saving an impressive clip of Full Self-Driving or an incident on the road, which could be lost if new footage was recorded.

This has now been changed, as Tesla has shown in the Release Notes for an upcoming Software Update in China. It will likely expand to the U.S. market in the coming weeks, and was first noticed by NotaTeslaApp.

The release notes state:

“Dashcam Dynamic Recording Duration – The dashcam dynamically adjusts the recording duration based on the available storage capacity of the connected USB drive. For example, with a 128 GB USB drive, the maximum recording duration is approximately 3 hours; with a 1 TB or larger USB drive, it can reach up to 24 hours. This ensures that as much video as possible is retained for review before it gets overwritten.”

Tesla Adds Dynamic Recording

Instead of having a 60-minute cap, the new system will now go off the memory in the USB drive. This means with:

  • 128 GB Jump Drive – Up to Three Hours of Rolling Footage
  • 1TB Jump Drive – Up to 24 Hours of Rolling Footage

This is dependent on the amount of storage available on the jump drive, meaning that if there are other things saved on it, it will take away from the amount of footage that can be retained.

While the feature is just now making its way to employees in China, it will likely be at least several weeks before it makes its way to the U.S., but owners should definitely expect it in the coming months.

It will be a welcome feature, especially as there will now be more customization to the number of clips and their duration that can be stored.

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