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Tesla Giga Berlin event details expansion plans ahead of community vote
Tesla held an informational event at its Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg on Sunday, detailing its expansion plans ahead of a community vote on the proposed project.
The event was put on by Tesla in the plant in the lobby of the plant, located in Grünheide, Germany, and the automaker included graphics and additional details on its expansion proposal for a rail yard and logistics project, as shared on X by Tobias Lindh on Sunday. The event was open to the local community, and it comes ahead of a month-long period beginning next week, in which citizens will be able to vote on the project.
The post included the images Tesla had on display for the event, featuring the automaker’s plans for an in-house freight station with a siding shift to the railway, as well as additional storage to keep a larger bank of materials on site, and other social and employee facilities including training rooms, a competence center for trainees, and a childcare area.
Lindh clarified that this event was held not for the site’s Phase 2 construction plans, but that this event was regarding expansion to the east of the factory, specifically. This part of the expansion, as Tesla explains in one sign, will not be adding any production facilities and, thus, will not increase water consumption—a primary concern for many in the region.
Today @Tesla is hosting an information event for the citizens of #Grünheide in the Lobby at #GigaBerlin about the expansion.
The citizens will be able to vote for the new development plan for one month, starting next week.
The plan is important for the rail yard and logistics. pic.twitter.com/inMXUQFBHk
— Tobias Lindh (@tobilindh) January 14, 2024
According to one sign at the event, Tesla is holding citizens’ consultation hours every Thursday from 3:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. in the Giga Berlin lobby, and voting will take place over a month-long period, beginning next week.
In response to another user in the thread asking what the general sentiment was like at the event, Lindh said he thought the information and the event itself were beneficial, despite some vocal opposition to Tesla.
“As far as I can tell, most people are positive about Tesla,” Lindh wrote on X. “There is just a small loud group against Tesla. But it’s important that they are all voting, and not just the loud small group. I think that the information event today also has a very positive impact.”
You can see several of Lindh’s photos from the many signs at the event below, as translated from German to English.

Credit: Tobias Lindh | X

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tobias Lindh | X

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)

Credit: Tesla (via Tobias Lindh | X)
Tesla has been working toward expanding Giga Berlin for several months, waiting throughout much of last year to gain approval for the proposals. After being approved in July, the company’s plans were rejected by the Strausberg-Erkner Water Association (WSE) for its overall Phase 2 plans due to water scarcity, although Tesla has said it can perform the expansions without increasing water consumption.
In October, the Brandenburg State Office of the Environment called the objections to Tesla’s expansion plans a “farce,” while Minister of Agriculture Axel Vogel pointed out that Giga Berlin uses significantly less water than it’s even approved for—and far less than many other local companies.
Tesla highlights water recycling efforts at its Gigafactory Berlin
What are your thoughts? Let me know at zach@teslarati.com, find me on X at @zacharyvisconti, or send your tips to us at tips@teslarati.com.
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Tesla Cybercab and Robotaxi’s real advantage won’t be the ride service
For a century, the car has asked the same thing of its owner, which is basically to pay attention. Even the best ride-hailing app like Uber or Lyft only moved the problem into someone else’s hands. You stopped driving, but you still sat in a stranger’s car, while half listening, and wondering whether to take a phone call in the car without being rude. The Cybercab has no wheel, no pedals and no driver. With Grok @bot now live inside it, it becomes something else entirely, and I think that matters more than the fleet count that everyone is tracking.
Grok @bot is an agent, not a voice assistant. A rider signs in once, and from then on can say what they need and watch it happen. Order dinner from a favorite restaurant. Fill the grocery cart. Move money, answer email, adjust a calendar, push a work project forward. Tesla engineer Yun-Ta Tsai confirmed it is enabled across every Cybercab and the rest of the Model Y fleet, and Tesla’s own pitch is that Full Self-Driving handles the commute while Grok handles the errands.
Think about what that does to a thirty minute ride. Uber sells you a trip, while Waymo sells you the same trip in a more private setting. Tesla is selling the thirty minutes themselves, returned to you with an assistant attached. Errands that used to eat a Saturday get done between pickup and drop off. The ride stops being dead time between two places and becomes a place of its own.
Tesla integrates Grok Bot into its vehicles for the ultimate personal assistant
Best of all, your Bots follow you into any Cybercab, and presumably your own Tesla, then logs you out automatically when you step out. Anyone can bolt a chatbot onto a screen, but much harder to own the vehicle, the autonomy stack and the assistant at once. It also quietly ties SpaceX’s Super Intelligence business to Tesla’s fleet, after Tesla converted its xAI stake into SpaceX equity. The relationship between those two companies is getting harder to describe as separate.
This is also where the hard questions start, because an agent that can spend your money in a vehicle other people also ride in needs some answers. How does it handle a voice it shouldn’t trust? What gets recorded, who can see it, and for how long? What happens when a rider leaves halfway through a task?
If Tesla gets those answers right, the scoreboard changes. We have been counting Cybercabs and wait times. The more telling number may be what riders accomplish per trip. That is data almost no one else will ever have, and it is the real reason to watch Grok @bot.
What do you think? Leave me a comment.
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Why Elon Musk’s target date for buying an Optimus robot is harder than it sounds
Musk says China’s magnet export ban cost Optimus months, and robot hands remain shockingly hard.
Elon Musk says China’s export curbs on magnets used in electric motors set back Tesla’s Optimus program by two to three months, and that the robot’s hands remain the hardest part of the project. He made the comments Saturday during a live interview with Tesla Owners Silicon Valley at the X Takeover event at Giga Texas, in front of roughly 2,000 attendees. The Optimus discussion begins around the 49 minute mark of the stream.
On the hands, Musk was blunt and noted that a general purpose humanoid needs fine motor skills that are “incredibly difficult to get right. Shockingly difficult,” he said in the interview. He pointed to a problem he says no one has demonstrated yet: “One of the hardest things also generally is to do precision and force at the same time,” such as driving a small self tapping screw into wood. Touch sensors add another layer, since it is “actually kind of hard to get touch sensors that elastically deform and can handle high cycle life and it won’t just break after a few thousand cycles.”
He also took aim at rival robot videos. “Any complicated looking robot demo, it’s a canned demo. It’s not real,” Musk said, adding that real AI means showing a robot something it has never seen and watching it still cope, the way FSD handles a city it has never driven.
Musk expects the Optimus ramp to be slower than a new vehicle production ramp. “The initial part of that S curve of production ramp is going to be very slow at the beginning,” Musk said, partly because “unlike cars, there’s no pre existing supply chain for robot stuff.” That echoes his July reply on X that Optimus production “will be extremely slow at first, as everything is new.”
The magnet disclosure puts a number on a problem Musk first raised in 2025. He said China “prevented the export of magnets for use in electric motors” and that it “set back the Optimus program by like two or three months.” Then he added: “We had robots with no arms.” Tesla’s fix is to bring the supply chain home. “You’ve got to be able to make all the parts domestically,” he said. Teslarati reported in April 2025 that Musk tied the issue to permanent magnets in the arm actuators, where motors have to be as small as possible.
Tesla Optimus V3 hand and arm details revealed in new patents
Production is moving regardless, with a reported internal goal of more than 1,000 a week by the end of 2026. Teslarati recently covered how Tesla is certifying supply partners in China for Optimus parts, while the company’s hand design has been the subject of new patent filings.
Musk has said he wants Optimus available to the public by late 2027, though Tesla has not confirmed that date or published updated production figures.
Investor's Corner
Elon Musk drops a Thanksgiving hint about Starship’s biggest test yet
Elon Musk says Starship Flight 15 will try to catch the ship itself, a first.
Elon Musk says SpaceX’s next Starship flight will try something nobody has done before, by catching the ship itself. Speaking to roughly 2,000 people at the X Takeover event at Giga Texas on Saturday, Musk said Flight 15 is about four to six weeks away and “probably launches a little bit before Thanksgiving, is my guess.”
That is a slip from earlier reporting, which had pointed to a launch as early as October 19. Musk explained why the date keeps moving. “We’re making a bunch of improvements to the rocket between every flight,” he said, adding that there are often hundreds, sometimes thousands, of small changes. This time the list is short, “but some of them take a fair bit of work and we’ve got to go inside the tank to make some of these changes.”
“We’re going to try to catch the ship, which is a super big deal,” Musk said. “If we do so, that’ll be the first time that there’s been full recovery of an orbital class rocket.” SpaceX has already caught the Super Heavy booster with the tower’s mechanical arms, and has talked about catching the ship since late 2025, but the upper stage has never been caught.
Musk also laid out what comes after. “The next big milestone would be to refly both the booster and the ship,” he said, describing a Flight 16 where “all parts of an orbital rocket are reflown.”
The reason SpaceX wants this comes down to cost and cadence. Every Starship ship so far has ended its flight in the ocean, and SpaceX expects most of those water landings to end in fireballs. A ship that returns to Starbase intact can be inspected and flown again. SpaceX’s IPO filing, says Starship V3 is designed to deliver 100 metric tons to orbit in a fully reusable configuration, that SpaceX aims to cut the cost to reach orbit by 99% or more versus the historical average, and that tower catches should allow “multiple launches per day.”
The payoff goes beyond cheaper launches. The next generation Starlink V3 satellites are too large for Falcon 9 and can only fly on Starship, which can carry up to 60 per flight. Flight 14 on September 28 deployed the first 26 of them after Starship reached orbit despite an early engine shutdown, as Teslarati reported. Musk blamed engine computer software, and said the heat shield “was extremely robust,” which he claimed in August had solved Starship’s biggest challenge.
NASA’s Moon plans depend on the same capability. NASA’s inspector general has described a lander mission that needs a propellant depot in low Earth orbit and more than 10 tanker flights, with SpaceX targeting one tanker launch every six days. That schedule only works if ships and boosters come back fast and fly again. Also, ship to ship propellant transfer has not been attempted yet.
One interesting hurdle yet to be explored is bringing the ship back to the launch site, with reentry over land, which will undoubtedly come with a lot of aviation safety reviews.