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“Tesla of China” NIO cancels plans to build a local factory after heavy 2018 losses

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NIO, the Chinese electric vehicle startup with its eyes set on Tesla’s luxury auto market consumers, revealed some production stumbling blocks in a press release on Tuesday detailing its Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Financial Results. One of the most notable points of interest was its decision to cancel plans to build a Shanghai manufacturing facility in favor of continuing to contract work to state-owned JAC Motors. The report also revealed $1.4 billion in losses, doubling the losses experienced in 2017, despite meeting production and delivery goals for the year.

Even without having a factory to call its own, NIO currently has two SUV vehicles for sale, the ES8 and coming ES6. Having a deal with the government – one where the government makes a product for a company rather than the other way around – may seem unusual, especially in the US. However, it’s par for the course in China. In a call with investors following the news release Tuesday, NIO chief financial officer Luis Hsieh commented that such arrangements are “endorsed and perceived as an innovative manufacturing model in China.” As a result, NIO has been able to put vehicles on the road quickly, giving it an edge over the extensive competition in the country.

It’s also interesting to note that NIO represents one of hundreds of China-based EV companies hoping to cash in on Chinese government incentives driving the ramp up of the all-electric car market. With 5 million annual EV sales expected to come from China in the near future, startups like NIO and established electric brands like Tesla are eyeing a bright future full of growth. Tesla’s Shanghai-based Gigafactory 3 is a nod to their high sales expectations in the country.

NIO’s ES6 electric SUV command panel. | Credit: NIO

NIO’s deal with JAC Motors is apparently hurting its bottom line, however. Along with a fee collected by the manufacturer for each vehicle produced, NIO is required to compensate JAC for any operating losses during the first 3 years of production. If that’s not enough eating away at the company’s progress, slow January/February markets, tough trading conditions resulting from the ongoing US-China trade war, and end-of-year sales ramps in 2018 are being offered by NIO as reasons for a delivery slowdown in the early part of this year. The company expects the slowdowns to continue into the second quarter of 2019 for largely the same reasons.

The bad financial news from NIO is perhaps a bit surprising considering that the announcement is on the heels of a 60 Minutes feature wherein CEO William Li was hopeful for the company’s prospects in China’s EV market. NIO has been positioned as a lifestyle company rather than simply a car maker, offering exclusive owner perks like clubhouses and on-demand charging solutions. Li’s plans also include eventual entry into the international market, and the company already has offices around the world seemingly to aid in this effort.

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Perhaps without Tesla’s experiences coming to market shining a light on what’s possible during a new EV manufacturer’s development path, news like NIO’s announcement would immediately spell impending doom for such a new company in a still-evolving market. That is not quite the case, of course, and NIO, along with the numerous EV startups begun in Tesla’s wake, have essentially a wealth of information available to learn from as applicable to their national situations. Even still, just as Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk often stated that “rockets are hard” despite decades of space launching knowledge being available, so too are electric vehicle companies.

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Elon Musk shuts down Tesla ‘AMG’ division speculation: ‘Focus is autonomy’

“I think it’s best to leave that to the custom shops. Tesla’s focus is autonomous cars, building futuristic autonomous cars. We want the future to look like the future.”

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk was asked by Joe Rogan late last week whether the company would ever consider establishing an “AMG division” like Mercedes-Benz has established for powerful, race-inspired vehicles.

However, Musk turned down any talk of that, highlighting that the company is laser-focused on autonomous vehicles, seemingly hinting that any distraction from autonomy would be a detriment to the future.

Rogan drives a Tesla Model S himself, but it is not your run-of-the-mill all-electric sedan. Already outfitted with the Plaid powertrain that Tesla developed, Rogan took his vehicle to Unplugged Performance for a true performance outfitting.

The vehicle is completely overhauled with performance parts and seats. Known as the Model S-APEX, Rogan took delivery of it from Unplugged in January.

Rogan asked Musk on Friday during his most recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast whether Tesla would ever establish an “AMG division” that would focus on catering Teslas to performance-based standards.

Musk said:

“I think it’s best to leave that to the custom shops. Tesla’s focus is autonomous cars, building futuristic autonomous cars. We want the future to look like the future.”

Tesla fans have said for years that the company should consider acquiring Unplugged Performance and its Upfit Tesla division, which recently outfitted the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department’s fleet of Cybertruck cruisers.

However, it seems Tesla will keep things separate. Musk is primarily focused on autonomy, which will drive the technology forward and drive shareholder growth. Something like an outfitter for performance would be a cool thing for the owners who have the interest and the money.

It’s not a tremendous revenue driver or anything that would contribute to the financial state of the company. Mercedes-Benz, for example, is more accessible for consumers as it sold over 140,000 units from its AMG brand in 2024.

Tesla Model Y driver starts race in reverse, still wins against AMG SUV

It helps with driving revenue higher by as much as 15 percent compared to similar models that are not AMGs. However, would Tesla see this much of a benefit? Likely not, because the Performance trim already caters to many owners.

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Tesla Cybertruck fleet takes over at SpaceX’s Starbase

Interestingly, the Cybertruck uses the same exterior, a stainless steel alloy, as SpaceX rockets. This synergy between the two companies and their very different products shows a very unified mentality between Musk companies.

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Tesla Cybertrucks have taken over at SpaceX’s Starbase facility in Texas, as hundreds of the all-electric pickup trucks were spotted late last week rounding out a massive fleet of vehicles.

The Cybertruck fleet is geared toward replacing gas vehicles that are used at Starbase for everyday operations. The only surprise about this is that it was not done sooner:

Deliveries have been going on for a few weeks, as Cybertrucks have made their way across the state of Texas from Austin to Starbase so they could be included in SpaceX’s fleet of vehicles at the facility.

Interestingly, the Cybertruck uses the same exterior, a stainless steel alloy, as SpaceX rockets. This synergy between the two companies and their very different products shows a very unified mentality between Musk companies.

However, there are some other perspectives to consider as SpaceX is utilizing such a massive fleet of Cybertrucks. Some media outlets (unsurprisingly) are seeing this as a move of weakness by both Tesla and SpaceX, as the aerospace company is, in a sense, “bailing out” lagging sales for the all-electric pickup.

It’s no secret that Tesla has struggled with the Cybertruck this year, and deliveries have been underwhelming in the sense that the company was anticipating between 1 million and 2 million orders for the vehicle before it was widely produced.

A lot of things changed with the Cybertruck between its 2019 unveiling and 2023 initial deliveries, most notably, price.

The price of the Cybertruck swelled significantly and priced out many of those who had pre-ordered it. Some have weighed the option of whether this purchase was a way to get rid of sitting inventory.

However, it seems more logical to consider the fact that SpaceX was likely always going to transition to Teslas for its fleet, especially at Starship, at some point.

It doesn’t seem out of the question that one Musk company would utilize another Musk company’s products, especially considering the Cybertruck has been teased as the vehicle that would be present on Mars.

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Elon Musk subtly confirms one of Tesla AI8’s uses, and it’s literally out of this world

Elon Musk appears to have subtly confirmed that Tesla’s upcoming AI8 chip won’t be limited to vehicles or robots alone.

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Elon Musk appears to have subtly confirmed that the uses of Tesla’s upcoming AI8 chip won’t be limited to vehicles or humanoid robots alone.

If Musk’s recent responses on X are any indication, it would appear that Tesla’s AI8 will be used by the CEO’s other companies, and its applications would literally extend out of this world.

Tesla’s AI8 could extend beyond vehicles

Musk’s update came on the heels of his recent comments, where he revealed that Tesla was not just working on its AI5 and AI6 chips. The company is also designing AI7 and AI8. This comment caught a lot of attention, with some wondering why Tesla feels the need to design an AI8 chip when AI4 seems on track to be a good fit for autonomous driving. 

Amidst these speculations, an X user suggested that Elon Musk’s comment about AI8 being out of this world could actually be quite true in the literal sense, as it could be used as the chip for SpaceX’s orbit data centers. Musk subtly confirmed this, as he responded to the X user’s post with a bullseye emoji.

Musk’s subtle confirmation that AI8 will be used by SpaceX’s in-space data centers presents a pretty interesting future for the electric vehicle maker. Synergy among Elon Musk-led companies is nothing new, but having Tesla produce chips for SpaceX is undoubtedly something that’s never really been done before.

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SpaceX’s space-based computing with Starlink V3 satellites

Musk previously stated that SpaceX plans to use its Starlink V3 satellites to develop space-based data centers. In response to an Ars Technica report on autonomous space construction, he wrote on X: “Simply scaling up Starlink V3 satellites, which have high-speed laser links, would work. SpaceX will be doing this.”

The concept, while ambitious, could address growing energy and cooling constraints facing Earth-based data centers amid the AI boom. Space-based clusters could also cut down on land and water usage, though critics have questioned their cost and maintainability.

Musk recently called the orbital data center project “a very big deal,” and given SpaceX’s history of turning improbable ideas into operational systems, it may not be too far-fetched at all, especially since SpaceX’s Starlink V3 platform is capable of up to 1 terabit per second (Tbps) throughput.

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