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SpaceX CEO Elon Musk’s Starship presentation will have to wait a few more weeks

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk is pictured here during a recorded statement at Starmus 2019. Musk is now planning a new Starship presentation in mid-September. (Julien Ston)

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While the FAA’s slow pace continues to delay Starhopper’s second major flight test, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that his planned Starship 2019 presentation will also be delayed and will instead follow a major integration milestone for the first orbital-class Starship prototype.

That milestone – likely representing the preliminary completion of Starship Mk1’s primary structure – could apparently come as early as mid-September, a claim that is at least partially supported by the relentless progress SpaceX has made in the last few weeks. Although a 200m (650 ft) Starhopper flight test would undeniably bode well for the health of SpaceX’s full-scale Raptor engine development, the partial completion of the first orbital-class Starship prototype would carry far more weight for the whole of SpaceX’s next-generation, fully-reusable launch vehicle.

Back in early August, about a week after Starhopper completed its inaugural July 25th flight test, Musk tweeted that his promised Starship update presentation would take place on August 24th, previously hoped to be “a few weeks” after Starhopper’s second major flight test.

He quickly confirmed that it would take place in Boca Chica, Texas, while also cryptically adding that Starship Mk1 could be “almost ready to fly” by then. This led your author to speculate just yesterday that any further FAA-related Starhopper delays could very well push the low-fidelity testbed into early retirement if Starships Mk1 and Mk2 can maintain their extremely rapid rate of progress.

“According to Musk, either or both of those orbital-class prototypes could be ready for their inaugural flight tests as early as mid-September, perhaps just 1-2 months from now. Given that Starships Mk1 and Mk2 are significantly higher fidelity than Starhopper, the ungainly testbed will likely become redundant the moment that its successors are ready for flight. In other words, Starhopper is fast approaching the end of its useful life, and SpaceX’s fight for a 200m hop-test permit could ultimately be a waste of time, effort, and money if said permit doesn’t also cover Starship Mk1.”

Teslarati.com, August 20th, 2019

SpaceX’s Boca Chica, Texas Starship facility is pictured here on August 15th. (NASASpaceflight – bocachicagal)

Over the course of the last 3-4 weeks, SpaceX’s Starship assembly progress has been absolutely relentless, ranging from adding 20+ meters of height to tank sections, installing major fuel tank bulkheads, and more. Most notably, and to be discussed in greater detail in an upcoming Teslarati article, SpaceX has accepted delivery and begun installation of two identical triple-Raptor thrust structures and bulkhead seals in both Texas and Florida.

SpaceX began an almost identical installation of Starship Mk1’s Raptor thrust structure and fuel tank dome cap on August 14th, four days before Cocoa. (NASASpaceflight – bocachicagal)

Additionally and at least as excitingly, SpaceX’s Boca Chica facilities accepted delivery of what is – by all appearances – the first finished Starship landing leg, likely one of two actuating fins per a September 2018 design update. According to Musk, the design of Starship’s aerodynamic control surfaces and legs has changed since that 2018 update, but the leg that was delivered on August 18th certainly looks almost exactly like those pictured in official SpaceX media dated before Musk’s reported changes.

Just like official pre-steel renders from SpaceX, the delivered leg appears to have attachment points and hinges on its cylindrical end, while the bulk of the leg is tapered. Fascinatingly, the leg’s exterior appears to have been constructed primarily via riveting steel, producing an aesthetic that screams “steampunk spaceship”.

A zoomed view of SpaceX's updated BFR design. Seven Raptors (shown) power the spaceship upper stage. (SpaceX)
A September 2018 render of Starship (then BFS) shows one of the vehicle’s two hinged wings/fins/legs. (SpaceX)

In short, given just how fast SpaceX is progressing with Starship Mk1and Mk2 and combined with the FAA’s permitting delays, it’s not surprising in the slightest that CEO Elon Musk has decided that the official 2019 update would be better accompanied by a major Starship Mk1 milestone. According to Musk, Starship Mk1 and Mk2 could actually be ready for their first flight tests – powered by at least three Raptor engines – as early as mid-September to mid-October.

By all appearances, ~4 weeks is an eternity in Starship assembly time and Musk’s now-mid-September presentation will almost certainly be worth waiting for.

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Eric Ralph is Teslarati's senior spaceflight reporter and has been covering the industry in some capacity for almost half a decade, largely spurred in 2016 by a trip to Mexico to watch Elon Musk reveal SpaceX's plans for Mars in person. Aside from spreading interest and excitement about spaceflight far and wide, his primary goal is to cover humanity's ongoing efforts to expand beyond Earth to the Moon, Mars, and elsewhere.

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Tesla Cybercab and Robotaxi’s real advantage won’t be the ride service

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Concept art of a Tesla Cybercab in Las Vegas Strip as rendered via Grok

For a century, the car has asked the same thing of its owner, which is basically to pay attention. Even the best ride-hailing app like Uber or Lyft only moved the problem into someone else’s hands. You stopped driving, but you still sat in a stranger’s car, while half listening, and wondering whether to take a phone call in the car without being rude. The Cybercab has no wheel, no pedals and no driver. With Grok @bot now live inside it, it becomes something else entirely, and I think that matters more than the fleet count that everyone is tracking.

Grok @bot is an agent, not a voice assistant. A rider signs in once, and from then on can say what they need and watch it happen. Order dinner from a favorite restaurant. Fill the grocery cart. Move money, answer email, adjust a calendar, push a work project forward. Tesla engineer Yun-Ta Tsai confirmed it is enabled across every Cybercab and the rest of the Model Y fleet, and Tesla’s own pitch is that Full Self-Driving handles the commute while Grok handles the errands.

Think about what that does to a thirty minute ride. Uber sells you a trip, while Waymo sells you the same trip in a more private setting. Tesla is selling the thirty minutes themselves, returned to you with an assistant attached. Errands that used to eat a Saturday get done between pickup and drop off. The ride stops being dead time between two places and becomes a place of its own.

Tesla integrates Grok Bot into its vehicles for the ultimate personal assistant

Best of all, your Bots follow you into any Cybercab, and presumably your own Tesla, then logs you out automatically when you step out. Anyone can bolt a chatbot onto a screen, but much harder to own the vehicle, the autonomy stack and the assistant at once. It also quietly ties SpaceX’s Super Intelligence business to Tesla’s fleet, after Tesla converted its xAI stake into SpaceX equity. The relationship between those two companies is getting harder to describe as separate.

This is also where the hard questions start, because an agent that can spend your money in a vehicle other people also ride in needs some answers. How does it handle a voice it shouldn’t trust? What gets recorded, who can see it, and for how long? What happens when a rider leaves halfway through a task?

If Tesla gets those answers right, the scoreboard changes. We have been counting Cybercabs and wait times. The more telling number may be what riders accomplish per trip. That is data almost no one else will ever have, and it is the real reason to watch Grok @bot.

What do you think? Leave me a comment.

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Why Elon Musk’s target date for buying an Optimus robot is harder than it sounds

Musk says China’s magnet export ban cost Optimus months, and robot hands remain shockingly hard.

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Concept rendering of Tesla Optimus in mass production

Elon Musk says China’s export curbs on magnets used in electric motors set back Tesla’s Optimus program by two to three months, and that the robot’s hands remain the hardest part of the project. He made the comments Saturday during a live interview with Tesla Owners Silicon Valley at the X Takeover event at Giga Texas, in front of roughly 2,000 attendees. The Optimus discussion begins around the 49 minute mark of the stream.

On the hands, Musk was blunt and noted that a general purpose humanoid needs fine motor skills that are “incredibly difficult to get right. Shockingly difficult,” he said in the interview. He pointed to a problem he says no one has demonstrated yet: “One of the hardest things also generally is to do precision and force at the same time,” such as driving a small self tapping screw into wood. Touch sensors add another layer, since it is “actually kind of hard to get touch sensors that elastically deform and can handle high cycle life and it won’t just break after a few thousand cycles.”

He also took aim at rival robot videos. “Any complicated looking robot demo, it’s a canned demo. It’s not real,” Musk said, adding that real AI means showing a robot something it has never seen and watching it still cope, the way FSD handles a city it has never driven.

Musk expects the Optimus ramp to be slower than a new vehicle production ramp. “The initial part of that S curve of production ramp is going to be very slow at the beginning,” Musk said, partly because “unlike cars, there’s no pre existing supply chain for robot stuff.” That echoes his July reply on X that Optimus production “will be extremely slow at first, as everything is new.”

The magnet disclosure puts a number on a problem Musk first raised in 2025. He said China “prevented the export of magnets for use in electric motors” and that it “set back the Optimus program by like two or three months.” Then he added: “We had robots with no arms.” Tesla’s fix is to bring the supply chain home. “You’ve got to be able to make all the parts domestically,” he said. Teslarati reported in April 2025 that Musk tied the issue to permanent magnets in the arm actuators, where motors have to be as small as possible.

Tesla Optimus V3 hand and arm details revealed in new patents

Production is moving regardless, with a reported internal goal of more than 1,000 a week by the end of 2026. Teslarati recently covered how Tesla is certifying supply partners in China for Optimus parts, while the company’s hand design has been the subject of new patent filings.

Musk has said he wants Optimus available to the public by late 2027, though Tesla has not confirmed that date or published updated production figures.

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Elon Musk drops a Thanksgiving hint about Starship’s biggest test yet

Elon Musk says Starship Flight 15 will try to catch the ship itself, a first.

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Elon Musk says SpaceX’s next Starship flight will try something nobody has done before, by catching the ship itself. Speaking to roughly 2,000 people at the X Takeover event at Giga Texas on Saturday, Musk said Flight 15 is about four to six weeks away and “probably launches a little bit before Thanksgiving, is my guess.”

That is a slip from earlier reporting, which had pointed to a launch as early as October 19. Musk explained why the date keeps moving. “We’re making a bunch of improvements to the rocket between every flight,” he said, adding that there are often hundreds, sometimes thousands, of small changes. This time the list is short, “but some of them take a fair bit of work and we’ve got to go inside the tank to make some of these changes.”

“We’re going to try to catch the ship, which is a super big deal,” Musk said. “If we do so, that’ll be the first time that there’s been full recovery of an orbital class rocket.” SpaceX has already caught the Super Heavy booster with the tower’s mechanical arms, and has talked about catching the ship since late 2025, but the upper stage has never been caught.

Musk also laid out what comes after. “The next big milestone would be to refly both the booster and the ship,” he said, describing a Flight 16 where “all parts of an orbital rocket are reflown.”

The reason SpaceX wants this comes down to cost and cadence. Every Starship ship so far has ended its flight in the ocean, and SpaceX expects most of those water landings to end in fireballs. A ship that returns to Starbase intact can be inspected and flown again. SpaceX’s IPO filing, says Starship V3 is designed to deliver 100 metric tons to orbit in a fully reusable configuration, that SpaceX aims to cut the cost to reach orbit by 99% or more versus the historical average, and that tower catches should allow “multiple launches per day.”

The payoff goes beyond cheaper launches. The next generation Starlink V3 satellites are too large for Falcon 9 and can only fly on Starship, which can carry up to 60 per flight. Flight 14 on September 28 deployed the first 26 of them after Starship reached orbit despite an early engine shutdown, as Teslarati reported. Musk blamed engine computer software, and said the heat shield “was extremely robust,” which he claimed in August had solved Starship’s biggest challenge.

NASA’s Moon plans depend on the same capability. NASA’s inspector general has described a lander mission that needs a propellant depot in low Earth orbit and more than 10 tanker flights, with SpaceX targeting one tanker launch every six days. That schedule only works if ships and boosters come back fast and fly again. Also, ship to ship propellant transfer has not been attempted yet.

One interesting hurdle yet to be explored is bringing the ship back to the launch site, with reentry over land, which will undoubtedly come with a lot of aviation safety reviews.

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