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Tesla FSD Beta 10.69.2 “looking good” for weekend release + 10.69.1.1 Reviews
Elon Musk shared that Tesla FSD Beta 10.69.2’s release is still set for this weekend.
Tesla initially planned to release v10.69.2 last week but delayed the update to polish it up more. The company rolled out v.10.69.1.1 to more Beta testers instead.
Tesla FSD Beta 10.69.1.1 Reviews
A few Tesla Beta testers who received v10.69.1.1 shared their observations and thoughts about the update with Teslarati. One of the common issues Beta Testers mentioned was phantom braking.
One 2021 Model S owner, Howard, noted that his Tesla vehicle still experienced phantom braking too much. He shared that his Model S drove like a 16-year-old. “Not smooth with the wheel, throttle, or brakes,” he said.
Howard also observed that his Tesla ignored some speed signs, even if they popped up on the display. The Tesla Model S owner added that his car “still fades right into turn lanes when there is not [a] turn to be done. It then swerves to go to the last [turn] it just left.”
Fellow FSD Beta tester, Michael, was “a bit disappointed” with the latest update. He noted experiencing some phantom braking along the Long Island Expressway.
“Can’t seem to figure out the somewhat irregular lines in the HOV lane, which is surprising to me. Oh well….hope for better next time. Still not there, but much better than first experiences,” Michael added.
Impressions from a longtime FSD Beta Tester
FSD Beta tester Les also shared his thoughts about v.10.69.1.1 with Teslarati. Les has been an Early Access software tester since 2018. He was kind enough to break down all his observations from testing FSD Beta 10.69.1.1.
Les mentioned seeing a few issues with FSD Beta that have been around since Fall 2021. Some of the issues are listed below.
- [The] car doesn’t always stay in [the] proper turn lane when using the outer lane of a left dual turn lane scenario; 8/10 times, mid-turn, it will cross over into the inner turn lane. It has done this for me with every FSD Beta build back to October 2021.
- Inconsistent lane selection: my car will still sometimes move[s] into lanes opposite to the next upcoming turn, sometimes when close to that upcoming turn, sometimes missing the turn itself.
- Late turn signals: this is a long-standing issue many testers have reported. The turn signals [usually] activate too late when they need to activate ahead of a turn lane to alert drivers behind us.
Despite the continuing issues he observed, Les seemed to have an overall good experience with the latest update. He specifically highlighted Tesla’s work with Chuck Cook Style’s unprotected left terms which were specifically mentioned in v10.69’s release notes. Listed below are all his good observations about FSD Beta v. 10.69.1.1.
- The improvement to “Chuck Cook style” unprotected left turns with multiple lanes and medians is incredible. The car utilizes the median space very well. [It] feels like more than an improvement. It really almost feels like a feature upgrade. It’s that significant and amazing to experience.
- The car has almost no more phantom braking events for me. I never had many to begin with, certainly not as many severe events as other friends report, but I did notice the ones I had and the places they occurred no longer occurred.
- Traffic turning across my car’s path no longer triggers a cautious braking event when there’s enough room ahead. The car better recognizes the crossing vehicle’s direction and speed, and my car maintains its speed. Very human-like behavior.
- More assertive and smooth acceleration out of turns, especially when entering a higher speed road. Related: improved acceleration from stops. I like this very much, as prior builds often took too long (for my taste anyway) to get up to speed. It still could get up to speed more quickly, but there is [a] notable improvement.
- The dashcam bug has been eliminated!! The prior build would routinely crash the dashcam after I parked and/or charged, requiring either a computer reboot or removal/reinsertion of [the] dashcam thumb drive to fix. No more problems!
In general, Tesla is steadily improving FSD Beta with each update. And Testers are actively experiencing those improvements. However, Tesla’s Full Self-Driving suite still needs more work before it rolls out to the public.
Are you an FSD Beta tester? I’d like to hear your thoughts on v10.69.2! Contact me at maria@teslarati.com or via Twitter @Writer_01001101.
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Tesla shows what Roadster drivers will see on screen before thruster activation
Tesla’s Roadster video reveals a fighter jet inspired cockpit with a 5,500 PSI thruster gauge.
Tesla has given future owners their clearest look yet at the cockpit of its next generation Roadster. In a 34 second video posted to X on Friday afternoon, the company walked through the car’s touchscreen with a caption: “Inspired by fighter jet cockpits, Roadster’s interface was designed around the pilot.”
The clip opens on a black screen with red graphics and a 3D wireframe of the car, which sits beside the Roadster’s squared off yoke. Tapping parts of the model brings up controls for the rear wing, including low drag and high downforce positions, along with a charging page with a charge limit bar and a small music player. A row of tabs along the bottom reads Home, Vehicle, Listen, Climate and Navigate.
Most of the video is spent in Track Mode. The dashboard shows a live circuit map, a list of session lap times, brake and motor temperatures, and pressure and temperature readouts for each tire. A setup page lets the driver pick Auto, Low Drag, High Downforce or Custom aero modes, adjust aero balance and brake balance, and switch stability and traction control off. Along the bottom, a status bar reads “Thruster · 5,500 PSI” next to a “Boost Ready” indicator.
That gauge ties the software to the hardware Tesla showed off near Waco, Texas on October 15. The Thrust and Rocket versions use cold gas thrusters fed by carbon overwrapped pressure vessels, and Tesla lists 0 to 60 mph times of under 0.9 seconds and under 0.59 seconds for them, as Teslarati detailed in its breakdown of the three Roadster configurations. The base Performance car relies on a fan and ground sealing system for grip, and the aero settings on screen match the active wings and suction setup covered in our look at how the Roadster generates downforce.
The Roadster layout is a departure from the rest of Tesla’s lineup. Instead of a map centered screen, the Roadster puts the car itself at the center of the home page, and Tesla’s Roadster page lists two smaller forward displays alongside the main touchscreen. Tesla has not said whether any of the Track Mode telemetry will make its way to the Model 3 Performance or other vehicles.
The interface could still change before deliveries. Elon Musk said at the event that Roadster production will begin in 2028, and Tesla says the flagship Rocket version is not approved for public road use. Reservations are open with a $50,000 payment, while Thrust is listed as a limited release and Rocket is invite only.
Those who want to see the car in person will get their first chance this weekend. The Roadster goes on display in the lobby of the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles from October 24 to 27, according to Sawyer Merritt, the first time the public will be able to view it up close.
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Tesla reveals Optimus Academy, where robots teach themselves
Tesla has begun building production quality Optimus robots in Fremont and revealed its training plan.
Tesla has started building Optimus on the high volume line it set up inside its Fremont factory, and the company says the robots coming off it are the first that meet the bar for a real product. “The bots coming off this line are the first production-quality bots that we have manufactured,” Tesla wrote in its third quarter shareholder letter, adding that it has “proven that the current manufacturing process for Optimus is suitable for a commercial product.”
The line sits in space that built the Model S and Model X until this spring. Tesla cleared the old vehicle line in 46 days, as Teslarati reported in July, to make room for robot production sized for one million units a year. On Wednesday’s earnings call, Elon Musk said most of the equipment for that capacity is already in Fremont, with output set to climb toward roughly 20,000 robots a week as the line ramps.
Musk described the ramp as a classic S curve. “The growth of Optimus is an S curve, but the initial curve is a shallow slope,” he said. The team is now refining the robot’s AI, electromechanical design, reliability and service life, and Musk expects that work to be finished by the end of next year, when Tesla plans to start delivering Optimus to outside companies for dangerous, repetitive and around the clock jobs.
The most interesting part of the call was how Tesla plans to teach the robots. Its cars send real driving data back to the AI team from millions of vehicles, but Optimus has no fleet like that yet. “A big difference with Optimus versus the cars is we don’t have this vast fleet of cars from which we can gather training data,” Musk said. Tesla’s answer is an Optimus Academy, where 10,000 to 20,000 robots will practice a wide range of tasks and feed what they learn into the next version of the model. Every unit off the Fremont line becomes a source of that training data.
Smarter hardware is on the way too. Tesla plans to put its AI5 chip into Optimus next year, and Musk said a new Optimus video should arrive within one or two months showing the robot completing tasks driven by AI rather than preprogrammed motions. He took aim at rival humanoid demos that only run scripted routines, saying those would not hold up in the real world.
The supply chain is lining up behind the program. In September, Tesla certified Tuopu, Joyson and Sanhua as mass production partners for Optimus components. A far larger Optimus factory is also rising at Giga Texas, where drone footage from Joe Tegtmeyer showed the steel frame nearing completion, and Musk has pegged that plant’s long term target at 10 million robots a year.
Tesla executives also said Optimus production costs are trending toward the expected manufacturing cost of Cybercab, a sign the robot is being engineered for volume from the start. The hands remain the toughest piece of the design, a point Musk also made at the X Takeover event earlier this month, as Teslarati covered at the time, and that is where much of the current engineering effort is focused.
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The Starship moon landing number NASA and Elon Musk can’t agree on
Musk disputes NASA estimate of 22 Starship launches for Moon landing, predicting 6 to 8.
Elon Musk is disputing a new NASA safety panel estimate of how many Starship launches it will take to put astronauts on the Moon, saying the real number will be less than half the panel’s figure.
On Thursday, NASA’s Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel held its quarterly public meeting. Panel member Charlie Precourt, a former NASA astronaut, flagged the fueling process for SpaceX’s lunar lander as a major risk for Artemis IV, the mission planned to land a crew on the Moon in 2028. “We need to keep our eyes on numerous required fuelings for the lander,” Precourt said, according to Ars Technica. “I think the last estimate is around 22 flights.”
Ars Technica’s Eric Berger posted the comment on X, and Musk replied. “That’s way too high,” Musk wrote. “Actual number will be more like 6 to 8.”
The disagreement comes down to a basic problem with sending a ship as large as Starship to the Moon. Starship burns nearly all of its propellant just reaching Earth orbit, so it cannot continue on to the Moon without stopping for a refill. SpaceX’s answer is a gas station in space. First, a Starship that works as a storage tank, called a depot, is launched into orbit. Then a series of tanker Starships launch one at a time, dock with the depot and pump their leftover propellant into it. Once the depot is full, the lunar lander version of Starship launches, docks, fills up and heads for the Moon.
Every tanker trip is its own full rocket launch, which is why the count matters. More launches mean more time, more cost and more chances for something to go wrong before astronauts ever leave Earth. Berger estimated that even if SpaceX reaches twice weekly Starship launches by the end of 2027, filling a depot at the panel’s number would still take roughly three months.
How many tankers are needed depends mostly on how much propellant each one can carry to orbit and how much is lost along the way. Starship’s fuel and oxygen are stored at extremely cold temperatures, and some of it slowly boils off while waiting in orbit. More is lost in each transfer. NASA appears to be working from what Starship can lift today, while Musk’s range assumes a more capable rocket.
Musk has pushed back on higher counts before. In 2021, after a government document suggested 16 launches, he called that “extremely unlikely” and said eight tankers would be the most required.
Much of the answer depends on hardware SpaceX has not finished flying. As Teslarati noted earlier this year, the company plans to carry out the refueling process with its upgraded V3 Starship, and Precourt described Artemis IV as carrying “a large number of firsts.” He also praised NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman’s team for working to clear obstacles for both SpaceX and Blue Origin, whose Blue Moon lander does not rely on orbital refueling for its first mission.