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SpaceX to launch a mystery ‘ZUMA’ payload in November
According to FCC documentation and information from industry insiders, SpaceX is planning to conduct its 17th launch of 2017 on November 10th. Scheduled to lift off from SpaceX’s Florida-based LC-39A launch pad 12 days after the current date for Koreasat 5A, the now-routine ~14 day mission cadence is not the topic of interest this time around.
Rather, the mystery surrounding this newly-revealed launch exists because not a soul in the spaceflight fan community appears to know what the payload is – (code)named ZUMA – or who ZUMA is being launched for. This secrecy would would be far from unusual if the mission was being flown for the National Reconnaissance Office or another military agency, but there is no evidence to suggest that Falcon 9 will be carrying a government payload.
Further, the limited information currently available is somewhat contradictory, making this launch and payload even more intriguing. A veil of secrecy as thick as this surrounding a commercial satellite or satellites is extraordinarily unusual. There simply is no immediately obvious explanation for why a commercial entity would require this level anonymity for a satellite launch.
The Redditor’s username has been redacted for the sake of privacy.
What we know
Based on two recently unearthed FCC launch and landing permits, SpaceX Mission 1390 will launch from LC-39A no earlier than November 10th, followed by first stage recovery at the nearby Landing Zone-1 (LZ-1) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
Courtesy of a Reddit user with friends inside SpaceX and a member of the NASASpaceflight forums, we also know that payload is codenamed ZUMA (or Zuma) and its launch is exceptionally time-sensitive for unknown reasons. The Reddit user also provided info that would completely negate any possibility that the payload is being launched for a government entity, as government agencies would not be concerned about revenue generation. A launch date of November 15th was also provided, reportedly pushed back a few days by a “slight slip in testing”.
SES-11’s refurbished Falcon 9 seen on the morning of October 11th. ZUMA will launch from the same pad. (Tom Cross/Teslarati)
Based on the above information, several preliminary conclusions can be drawn. First stage recovery on land indicates that the payload will be heading to an orbit well below the geostationary (transfer) orbits sought by established communications satellite operators. The launch could be for one of several prospective Low Earth Orbit (LEO) constellation companies, with OneWeb, Telesat, and Boeing the obvious first choices. However, it seems unrealistic to argue that a handful of experimental LEO communications satellites could possibly provide a company “lots of potential future revenue” or that those initial experimental satellites would be “extremely critical”. While the intense competition among the prospective LEO operators would rationalize some degree of ZUMA’s secrecy, it defies belief that potential LEO constellation competitors would willingly pay SpaceX for launches when that revenue might directly fund SpaceX’s own competing constellation, Starlink. Another obvious option would be SpaceX’s own experimental communications satellites, but such a move would not be in the best interests of a launch provider while launches for their own paying customers’ are slipping into 2018 due to a lack of launch capacity.
All things considered, the information posted on Reddit is far from official and should not be treated as conclusive. Still, reliable sources from NASASpaceflight.com have corroborated at least the name, ZUMA, and added that the Falcon 9 it will launch aboard is expected to be new. Assuming SpaceX itself is willing or able to reveal their identity, it looks like we will simply have to wait to find out who the mysterious customer is and what exactly warranted this unusual level of secrecy.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that flying cars will be coming to the market, something that his own company has hinted at previously.
Musk said on X, in response to a post that read, “We were promised flying cars and all we got is infinite superintelligence for everyone,” “You will get flying cars.”
You will get flying cars
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 12, 2026
The post rang back to when Musk teased flying and hovering capabilities for the Tesla Roadster, the company’s supercar that has been delayed more times than anyone cares to count. It was set for an unveiling earlier this year, but it was then pushed back to August. There is still no sign of it coming.
However, that does not mean it won’t. But one of the biggest features of the Roadster that was teased was a SpaceX package that featured cold gas thrusters on the rear end that would help with white-knuckle acceleration. Another set would face the ground and would help the Roadster gain small bits of altitude, potentially helpful to jump over obstacles.
Elon Musk hints at Tesla Roadster’s “hovering” abilities in SpaceX package
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But it is not a straightforward thing for Musk. As a serial entrepreneur, he tends to spend his time on major disruptors; currently, his largest projects are artificial intelligence and compute power, as well as SpaceX’s launches that will eventually make life multiplanetary.
In the past, he has been critical of flying cars and has been in favor of tunnels, one of the big reasons he started the Boring Company. In 2017 at a TED talk, he said:
“There is a challenge with flying cars in that they’ll be quite noisy. The wind force generated will be very high. Let’s just say that if something’s flying over your head, if there are a whole bunch of flying cars all over the place, that is not an anxiety-reducing situation…You’re thinking, ‘Did they service their hubcap? Or is it going to come off and guillotine me as they’re flying past?’”
However, he’s never been against them. He has also said he’s in favor of both tunnels and flying cars.
Contrary to press reports, I’m not against flying cars. Just said it was important to consider both pros and cons.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 24, 2015
Most recently, Musk said that anyone who wants a flying car should be able to get one. This was stated last October on the Joe Rogan Experience:
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“My friend Peter Thiel once reflected that the future was supposed to have flying cars, but we don’t have flying cars… I think if Peter wants a flying car, we should be able to buy one.”
Whether the Roadster will be Tesla’s flying car or potentially another one remains in the mind of Musk. Of course, the Roadster will have to make its way to production lines before we find out.
Elon Musk
SpaceX’s next trillion dollar bet has nothing to do with rockets, Musk tells staff
Elon Musk told SpaceX staff AI revenue will soon dwarf rockets and Starlink combined entirely.
Elon Musk told SpaceX employees this week that artificial intelligence, not rockets, will soon carry the company’s revenue. In a roughly 29 minute internal address posted on SpaceX’s X account on Tuesday, Musk said AI revenue will pass every other line of business at SpaceX “probably in September” and pull further ahead by the fourth quarter.
The numbers he gave are specific. SpaceX currently runs 1.4 gigawatts of AI compute capacity. Musk wants that at 10 gigawatts by the end of 2027, a jump he tied directly to revenue: “if we bring 10GW of AI online by the end of next year, it will be $300 billion to $500 billion a year in revenue.” He called those “big numbers,” which undersells a projection larger than what most countries produce in a year.
We made rockets reusable and are rebuilding the internet in space. The next challenge: making life multiplanetary and understanding the true nature of the universe
Watch @ElonMusk deliver a company update to @SpaceX employees pic.twitter.com/5c8rxoCQfu
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) August 11, 2026
Musk went further on where AI fits into SpaceX’s future. “Probably in four or five years, AI will be 99% of the value of SpaceX,” he told staff, adding that digital intelligence would eventually run “a trillion times” ahead of biological intelligence as computing scales. He tied that growth to the company’s founding mission, telling employees “we must win on AI, because the future is overwhelmingly AI and robots,” with the payoff meant to help fund Starship and a Mars program that increasingly runs through Terafab, the joint Tesla, SpaceX and xAI chip plant.
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None of this is entirely new territory. SpaceX told investors much the same story during its first earnings call as a public company on August 4, where Musk moved the company’s $1 trillion revenue target up a year to 2030 and said Starlink could someday carry a majority of the world’s internet. What the all hands video adds is a hard deadline and a specific power figure Musk had not given publicly before, along with a franker pitch to his own workforce that AI, not launch cadence, is now the thing SpaceX is betting its future on.
The AI revenue itself is not coming from SpaceX training its own models. It is largely Starlink acting as the network layer for xAI’s workloads, plus SpaceX renting out compute capacity directly, the same approach behind the roughly $16 billion the company spent on AI infrastructure in a single quarter.
Musk closed the video with a pitch aimed at recruiting and retention rather than investors, telling employees that anyone who helps SpaceX win the AI race will eventually get the chance to go to the moon or Mars themselves. Whether SpaceX can turn 1.4 gigawatts into 10 in seventeen months is the more immediate question, and one that will show up in quarterly numbers well before anyone leaves Earth.
In a new note to investors on Tuesday, Morgan Stanley analyst Andrew Percoco said that Tesla has one big financial question to answer for investors regarding its Robotaxi rollout, Full Self-Driving software, and Optimus.
Percoco said in the note that, for the most part, investors are still very positive about the direction the company is headed. However, there are some things the firm would like to see, and they have to do with financials.
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Tesla bulls are more than convinced that the company’s Full Self-Driving software is proof it can develop physical AI. Financially, however, there are still some questions, especially on elevated spending, which CEO Elon Musk said would occur as the company works to roll out Robotaxi faster and continue developing its Optimus robot.
The latter two are where Tesla will have to prove progress to investors, as Percoco writes that both projects “will require clearer evidence that Robotaxi is scaling and more tangible Optimus proof points to support the ROI on elevated capex.”
Percoco said the second quarter earnings call did not change his long-term thesis of where Tesla is positioned in the AI race, which is out in front. However, there are concerns that weaker gross margins and higher R&D spend will stress financials, and that has “sharpened our (and investors’) focus on measurable progress across Robotaxi and Optimus.”
Additionally, Robotaxi still needs to be proven with more operation in existing cities while maintaining safety but improving how many rides it gives in any given time, he said. For Optimus, Percoco wrote that he is “still looking for evidence beyond commentary around SOP.”
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Morgan Stanley put Percoco in charge of covering Tesla after long-time analyst Adam Jonas transitioned to the automotive side.
Currently, Morgan Stanley has a $415 price target on Tesla and a ‘Hold’ rating on the stock. It is trading at around $330 at the time of publication, which was 2:30 P.M. on the East Coast.
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