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SpaceX to launch a mystery ‘ZUMA’ payload in November
According to FCC documentation and information from industry insiders, SpaceX is planning to conduct its 17th launch of 2017 on November 10th. Scheduled to lift off from SpaceX’s Florida-based LC-39A launch pad 12 days after the current date for Koreasat 5A, the now-routine ~14 day mission cadence is not the topic of interest this time around.
Rather, the mystery surrounding this newly-revealed launch exists because not a soul in the spaceflight fan community appears to know what the payload is – (code)named ZUMA – or who ZUMA is being launched for. This secrecy would would be far from unusual if the mission was being flown for the National Reconnaissance Office or another military agency, but there is no evidence to suggest that Falcon 9 will be carrying a government payload.
Further, the limited information currently available is somewhat contradictory, making this launch and payload even more intriguing. A veil of secrecy as thick as this surrounding a commercial satellite or satellites is extraordinarily unusual. There simply is no immediately obvious explanation for why a commercial entity would require this level anonymity for a satellite launch.
The Redditor’s username has been redacted for the sake of privacy.
What we know
Based on two recently unearthed FCC launch and landing permits, SpaceX Mission 1390 will launch from LC-39A no earlier than November 10th, followed by first stage recovery at the nearby Landing Zone-1 (LZ-1) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
Courtesy of a Reddit user with friends inside SpaceX and a member of the NASASpaceflight forums, we also know that payload is codenamed ZUMA (or Zuma) and its launch is exceptionally time-sensitive for unknown reasons. The Reddit user also provided info that would completely negate any possibility that the payload is being launched for a government entity, as government agencies would not be concerned about revenue generation. A launch date of November 15th was also provided, reportedly pushed back a few days by a “slight slip in testing”.
SES-11’s refurbished Falcon 9 seen on the morning of October 11th. ZUMA will launch from the same pad. (Tom Cross/Teslarati)
Based on the above information, several preliminary conclusions can be drawn. First stage recovery on land indicates that the payload will be heading to an orbit well below the geostationary (transfer) orbits sought by established communications satellite operators. The launch could be for one of several prospective Low Earth Orbit (LEO) constellation companies, with OneWeb, Telesat, and Boeing the obvious first choices. However, it seems unrealistic to argue that a handful of experimental LEO communications satellites could possibly provide a company “lots of potential future revenue” or that those initial experimental satellites would be “extremely critical”. While the intense competition among the prospective LEO operators would rationalize some degree of ZUMA’s secrecy, it defies belief that potential LEO constellation competitors would willingly pay SpaceX for launches when that revenue might directly fund SpaceX’s own competing constellation, Starlink. Another obvious option would be SpaceX’s own experimental communications satellites, but such a move would not be in the best interests of a launch provider while launches for their own paying customers’ are slipping into 2018 due to a lack of launch capacity.
All things considered, the information posted on Reddit is far from official and should not be treated as conclusive. Still, reliable sources from NASASpaceflight.com have corroborated at least the name, ZUMA, and added that the Falcon 9 it will launch aboard is expected to be new. Assuming SpaceX itself is willing or able to reveal their identity, it looks like we will simply have to wait to find out who the mysterious customer is and what exactly warranted this unusual level of secrecy.
After launching in Austin, Texas, last week, Tesla is looking to expand the Cybercab to new parts of the United States in an effort that will see the driverless, steering wheel-less, and pedal-less vehicle chauffeur people around as part of the Robotaxi ride-hailing service.
However, the expansion will go far beyond the United States, and CEO Elon Musk revealed he hopes Europe will be the next market where Cybercab will be operational.
Musk has publicly expressed hope that Tesla’s Cybercab robotaxi will reach Europe in the near future.
On September 8, Tesla’s Chief Executive quoted a German rider who had just completed a trip in Austin, Texas, and wrote that he hoped the vehicle would not take years to arrive in Germany. Musk replied with a short but notable message: “Hopefully soon in Europe too.”
Hopefully soon in Europe too https://t.co/vqQ69bLJuN
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 8, 2026
The comment arrived only days after Tesla opened Cybercab ride-hailing to the public in Austin. The two-seat vehicle has no steering wheel or pedals and relies entirely on Tesla’s Full Self-Driving software. Early passengers have described the rides as quiet, smooth, and more stylish than competing robotaxis such as Waymo.
Austin is currently the only city where members of the public can hail a Cybercab through Tesla’s Robotaxi app. The initial fleet is small; Texas registration records show only a few dozen of the purpose-built vehicles on the road.
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Tesla has also been operating a larger number of conventional Model Y robotaxis in the same area, but the Cybercab itself represents the company’s first dedicated, controls-free taxi design.
Europe presents a different regulatory picture. The European Union does not permit manufacturers to self-certify vehicles the way Tesla did in the United States.
Type-approval rules and a small-series limit of 1,500 automated vehicles per type per year apply across the bloc.
Supervised Full Self-Driving has gained provisional approval in several member states through national recognition of Dutch certification, yet unsupervised robotaxi operation remains a separate and more distant step. Tesla has not announced a European launch city, date, or approval pathway for the Cybercab.
Musk himself has previously cautioned that the company does not control European regulators. In an earnings call earlier in 2026, he noted that even supervised FSD took an “immense amount of time” to clear and that unsupervised service would be “somewhat at the mercy of the governments in Europe and the EU.”
The latest social-media remark therefore functions more as an expression of intent than a timetable.
If the Cybercab eventually reaches European streets, it would mark a significant expansion of Tesla’s robotaxi ambitions beyond the United States. For now, the vehicle remains an Austin-only experience, and the gap between Musk’s hope and actual deployment will be decided by regulators rather than by engineering alone.
Tesla Cybercab might have just rolled out to the public as it entered the company’s Robotaxi suite in Austin this past week. However, the vehicle might already be on its way to becoming even better, as the company is asking riders to describe what they’d like to see improved with the Cybercab.
Tesla sent a rider experience survey to Cybercab passengers only days after paid rides began in Austin. The questionnaire asks how satisfied riders were with the overall trip. Then it requests star ratings for availability and wait time, door functionality, vehicle touchscreen, mobile app experience, seat comfort, interior space, ride comfort, cleanliness, and cargo space.
A later section asks which features riders would most like to have and allows selection of up to three items from a list that includes heated seats, ventilated seats, fully reclining seats, a tray table, a wireless phone charger, a better sound system, and more storage. Respondents may also choose none of these or write in another idea. The survey closes with a recommendation score from zero to ten.
Tesla just sent out a Cybercab rider experience survey so you can give feedback to the team. pic.twitter.com/YsU5OYdAjW
— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) September 8, 2026
This rapid request for input illustrates Tesla’s habit of treating early users as collaborators rather than mere customers. The company has long refined vehicles through software updates and hardware changes informed by real-world use across its passenger cars.
Collecting structured opinions so soon after commercial service started shows the same mindset applied to a purpose-built autonomous taxi. The questions themselves reveal an openness to cabin changes even after the first vehicles reached public streets, which is no surprise.
Tesla has always hoped to cater a great experience to anyone in its vehicles, which is why so many fan-requested features have made it into its vehicles.
Replies already circulating online favor reclining seats, tray tables, wireless charging, improved audio, and extra room when seats fold back.
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Those preferences point toward comfort upgrades that Tesla can implement in later production batches or through cabin revisions. Because the Cybercab is designed around software first principles, many requested amenities can arrive faster than in traditional automakers.
Tesla’s willingness to survey riders immediately after launch therefore makes near-term cabin and experience improvements likely as the team reviews responses and iterates toward a more refined robotaxi people will choose daily.
Tesla Cybertruck Lead Engineer Wes Morrill revealed the company has made several changes to the all-electric pickup, which he calls a “living thing, constantly evolving and improving.”
Cybertruck is manufactured at Tesla’s Gigafactory Texas just outside of Austin, and over the past few years, Tesla has continued to make small changes to the pickup to improve everything from cost, reliability, serviceablility, and manufacturability.
“The finish line isn’t getting to production. A product is a living thing, constantly evolving and improving,” Morrill added.
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Some of those changes are yet to be revealed, but perhaps the most notable one was the change Tesla made to the aero shield that sits underneath the truck. In the past, it was aluminum, but now the Cybertruck is using a self-reinforcing polypropylene.
Morrill said that the polypropylene is “stretched into fibers and then laminated into the form,” and is much more durable, much lighter, and significantly cheaper than aluminum when it is manufactured this way.
It also enabled some improvements in the geometry of the Cybertruck, improving the manufacturing around the bolts and edges, in addition to minor form changes. These all benefitted the Cybertruck in more ways than one: specifically with durability and improved drag.
I was surprised by how interested people were to find out we made a relatively benign change to the Cybertruck aero shield, a part of the car most people never even see. So I’ll share some more details.
Here are two photos, the left is one of the latest trucks off the… pic.twitter.com/F5cZo2CZKf
— Wes (@wmorrill3) September 7, 2026
Typically, Teslas are not necessarily identified by model year because these changes are fluid and occur when the company sees fit to implement them. It is not like other automotive companies, which usually make sweeping manufacturing changes when building a new model year.
Instead, Teslas are recognized by their “generation” or “era.” For example, those with a newer Model Y might refer to their car as a “Juniper.” This is the same with Model 3, as many refer to the new body style as the “Highland.”
Tesla’s manufacturing changes are proof of the company’s constant need to improve its products and move things forward with its vehicles. There is no need to drag one’s feet and wait until next year if the product can be made better right now, and that’s precisely what Tesla did with the Cybertruck.
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