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Tesla’s cabin camera use panned by Consumer Reports over privacy concerns

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In a report on Tuesday, US magazine Consumer Reports posted a critique of Tesla’s use of in-car cameras to develop and improve its Full Self-Driving suite. The publication noted that such practices from the EV maker raise privacy concerns.

Elon Musk confirmed in a recent tweet that Tesla is utilizing in-car footage from vehicles that are part of the ongoing FSD Beta to determine if drivers were paying enough attention to the road. Because of this, the CEO noted that some users’ access to the FSD Beta had been revoked. When prodded further, Musk confirmed that Tesla utilized the in-vehicle camera to determine if FSD beta users were paying sufficient attention when operating their vehicle.

This was a key point of critique for Consumer Reports, which noted that Tesla’s use of its vehicles’ cabin camera raises privacy concerns. Jake Fisher, the magazine’s auto test center’s senior director, shared his thoughts on the matter. “If Tesla has the ability to determine if the driver isn’t paying attention, it needs to warn the driver in the moment, like other automakers already do,” he said.

The Tesla Model 3 and the Model Y are both equipped with cabin cameras, which the EV maker intends to utilize for its upcoming Robotaxi network. The Model S and Model X refresh, which are expected to start deliveries soon, are also fitted with in-car cameras.

The cabin camera, at least for the Model 3 and Model Y today, is deactivated by default. However, drivers have the option to enable the in-car camera as a way to help Tesla develop future safety features and enhancements. Tesla has noted that it will capture and share a video clip from the cabin camera if the vehicle crashes or if the automatic emergency braking system is engaged.

While Consumer Reports’ concerns are notable, Tesla seems poised to use its vehicles’ cabin camera as a way to determine driver engagement in the future. Back in October, references to driver monitoring systems in Tesla’s software were observed by noted EV hacker @greentheonly. The hacker indicated that Tesla’s in-car camera could be used to detect if drivers’ eyes were closed, or if they were looking away from the road. This contrasts with the strategy employed by automakers such as General Motors, whose Super Cruise uses infrared technology to identify a driver’s eye movements or head position.

In a statement to Consumer Reports, John Davisson, senior counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), noted that closed-loop systems like those used by GM for Super Cruise do not present the same privacy risks as those presented by Tesla’s cabin camera. “I think there’s reason to distrust that this is the whole intended purpose of the system on Tesla’s part. It may later be repurposed for a system that is designed to track the behaviors of the driver, potentially for other business purposes,” he said.

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Tesla starts removing outright Full Self-Driving purchase option at time of order

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Tesla has chosen to axe the ability to purchase Full Self-Driving outright from a select group of cars just days after CEO Elon Musk announced the company had plans to eliminate that option in February.

The company is making a clear-cut stand that it will fully transition away from the ability to purchase the Full Self-Driving suite outright, a move that has brought differing opinions throughout the Tesla community.

Earlier this week, the company also announced that it will no longer allow buyers to purchase Full Self-Driving outright when ordering a pre-owned vehicle from inventory. Instead, that will be available for $99 per month, the same price that it costs for everyone else.

The ability to buy the suite for $8,000 for a one-time fee at the time of order has been removed:

This is a major move because it is the first time Tesla is eliminating the ability to purchase FSD outright for one flat fee to any of its vehicles, at least at the time of purchase.

It is trying to phase out the outright purchase option as much as it can, preparing people for the subscription-based service it will exclusively offer starting on February 14.

In less than a month, it won’t be available on any vehicle, which has truly driven some serious conversation from Tesla owners throughout the community.

There’s a conflict, because many believe that they will now lose the ability to buy FSD and not pay for it monthly, which is an attractive offer. However, others believe, despite paying $8,000 for FSD, that they will have to pay more money on top of that cost to get the unsupervised suite.

Additionally, CEO Elon Musk said that the FSD suite’s subscription price would increase over time as capabilities increase, which is understandable, but is also quite a conflict for those who spent thousands to have what was once promised to them, and now they may have to pay even more money.

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Tesla Robotaxi has a highly-requested hardware feature not available on typical Model Ys

These camera washers are crucial for keeping the operation going, as they are the sole way Teslas operate autonomously. The cameras act as eyes for the car to drive, recognize speed limit and traffic signs, and travel safely.

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Tesla Robotaxi has a highly-requested hardware feature that is not available on typical Model Ys that people like you and me bring home after we buy them. The feature is something that many have been wanting for years, especially after the company adopted a vision-only approach to self-driving.

After Tesla launched driverless Robotaxi rides to the public earlier this week in Austin, people have been traveling to the Lone Star State in an effort to hopefully snag a ride from one of the few vehicles in the fleet that are now no longer required to have Safety Monitors present.

BREAKING: Tesla launches public Robotaxi rides in Austin with no Safety Monitor

Although only a few of those completely driverless rides are available, there have been some new things seen on these cars that are additions from regular Model Ys, including the presence of one new feature: camera washers.

With the Model Y, there has been a front camera washer, but the other exterior “eyes” have been void of any solution for this. For now, owners are required to clean them manually.

In Austin, Tesla is doing things differently. It is now utilizing camera washers on the side repeater and rear bumper cameras, which will keep the cameras clean and keep operation as smooth and as uninterrupted as possible:

These camera washers are crucial for keeping the operation going, as they are the sole way Teslas operate autonomously. The cameras act as eyes for the car to drive, recognize speed limit and traffic signs, and travel safely.

This is the first time we are seeing them, so it seems as if Safety Monitors might have been responsible for keeping the lenses clean and unobstructed previously.

However, as Tesla transitions to a fully autonomous self-driving suite and Robotaxi expands to more vehicles in the Robotaxi fleet, it needed to find a way to clean the cameras without any manual intervention, at least for a short period, until they can return for interior and exterior washing.

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Tesla makes big Full Self-Driving change to reflect future plans

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Tesla made a dramatic change to the Online Design Studio to show its plans for Full Self-Driving, a major part of the company’s plans moving forward, as CEO Elon Musk has been extremely clear on the direction moving forward.

With Tesla taking a stand and removing the ability to purchase Full Self-Driving outright next month, it is already taking steps to initiate that with owners and potential buyers.

On Thursday night, the company updated its Online Design Studio to reflect that in a new move that now lists the three purchase options that are currently available: Monthly Subscription, One-Time Purchase, or Add Later:

This change replaces the former option for purchasing Full Self-Driving at the time of purchase, which was a simple and single box to purchase the suite outright. Subscriptions were activated through the vehicle exclusively.

However, with Musk announcing that Tesla would soon remove the outright purchase option, it is clearer than ever that the Subscription plan is where the company is headed.

The removal of the outright purchase option has been a polarizing topic among the Tesla community, especially considering that there are many people who are concerned about potential price increases or have been saving to purchase it for $8,000.

This would bring an end to the ability to pay for it once and never have to pay for it again. With the Subscription strategy, things are definitely going to change, and if people are paying for their cars monthly, it will essentially add $100 per month to their payment, pricing some people out. The price will increase as well, as Musk said on Thursday, as it improves in functionality.

Those skeptics have grown concerned that this will actually lower the take rate of Full Self-Driving. While it is understandable that FSD would increase in price as the capabilities improve, there are arguments for a tiered system that would allow owners to pay for features that they appreciate and can afford, which would help with data accumulation for the company.

Musk’s new compensation package also would require Tesla to have 10 million active FSD subscriptions, but people are not sure if this will move the needle in the correct direction. If Tesla can potentially offer a cheaper alternative that is not quite unsupervised, things could improve in terms of the number of owners who pay for it.

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