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Ex-Goldman CIO slams Tesla coverage that cited TSLAQ points on S&P 500 inclusion

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After four profitable quarters, expectations are high that Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) will be included in the S&P 500. The electric car maker posted four profitable quarters as of Q2 2020, effectively meeting the requirements to be included in the esteemed index. Yet if a recent article on Bloomberg was any indication, there are allegedly doubts about Tesla’s eligibility to be included in the S&P 500. 

Citing points from DataTrek Research, Bloomberg noted that there are doubts about whether Tesla has really qualified for the index. According to the article, doubts are likely present due to the company’s profits being tied to the sale of regulatory credits. Nicholas Colas, DataTrek’s co-founder, argued that if these credits were not counted, then Tesla would not be able to post its profitable quarters, since the money the company earns from its core business is simply too “skimpy” or “volatile.” 

“This puts the S&P committee in charge of adding names to the 500 in a real bind, because while to the letter of their ‘law’ Tesla qualifies for inclusion this is purely due to regulatory arbitrage — not fundamental profitability from designing, manufacturing and selling cars,” Colas argued. 

The points outlined in the recent Bloomberg piece were called out by former Equities Goldman Sachs Asset Mgmt CIO Gary Black, who penned a letter explaining how the article misses a number of key points behind Tesla’s profitable quarters. Black, who has also served as the CEO of Aegon Asset Mgmt US, the Co-CIO of Calamos, and the CEO/CIO of Janus Capital Group, admonished the publication for essentially parroting TSLAQ talking points. According to Black, doubts about the electric car maker’s regulatory credit earnings only represent a niche view, especially this relation to the electric car maker’s possible inclusion into the S&P 500

“Your Tesla story and headline today is at best one-sided and at worst, irresponsible. It presents a fringe view of what S&P is likely thinking, painted by the TSLAQ short community that has been trying to get a journalist to champion this view for weeks. You could have at least offered the mainstream view of what investors are thinking, consistent with the sharp rise in the Tesla stock price over the past two weeks. 

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“Tesla delivered a profitable 2Q in the midst of the worst economic downturn in 70 years, even with its main factory in Fremont, CA shut down for 8 of the 13 weeks of the quarter because of COVID19. If the Fremont Factory had been allowed to stay open, Tesla would have easily turned a profit without any regulatory credits. The rest of the auto industry lost $10B in 2Q. That Tesla was able to eke out a profit despite this backdrop is likely a feat S&P will find extraordinary. To say that this issue puts the S&P in a real bind in deciding on whether Tesla should be included in the S&P 500 is unsupported by research, and is almost certainly false.”

Tesla Chief Finance Officer Zachary Kirkhorn has noted that he expects revenue from regulatory credits to roughly double this year. That being said, the company is also well aware that earnings from regulatory credits will only last as long as other automakers refuse to go all-in on zero-emissions transportation. As for the S&P itself, the index has been quite silent about Tesla, with S&P Dow Jones spokesman Ray McConville declining to issue a comment on Bloomberg’s article. Tesla has also remained quite silent about the subject. 

Disclosure: I have no ownership in shares of TSLA and have no plans to initiate any positions within 72 hours.

Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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SpaceX to report first-ever earnings today: here’s what to expect

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Elon Musk’s space exploration company, SpaceX (NASDAQ: SPCX), is set to report its earnings for the second quarter today in what will be its first-ever earnings call since going public in July.

SpaceX is trading down roughly 25 percent from its IPO. These early stock signals are usually a bit tumultuous, and considering this is the first company actively launching rockets that is available on the stock exchange, investors might have a tendency to be a bit skittish.

However, there are going to be some details that investors will hear for the first time today on the earnings call. Here’s what to look for:

Wall Street Expectations

Revenue is expected to fall somewhere around $6.8 billion, and will be heavily driven by Starlink, which is SpaceX’s widely popular satellite internet platform that has been adopted by numerous airlines, cruise ships, and other maritime operations. It is also available for consumers at home or in their cars.

Earnings Per Share (EPS) expectations fall at a net loss of $0.23 per share. Wall Street sees this as a total net loss of roughly $1.9 billion.

EBITDA is expected to come in between $2 billion and $2.1 billion.

What Investors Want to Know

Tesla uses the Say platform to help work with both retail and institutional investors to answer relevant and quality questions that address concerns or questions that they might have.

However, SpaceX is doing things differently, as the company launched its own Investor Relations website where these questions are being fielded. Just like the Tesla questions, they seem to be less focused on the operational tasks and overall progress of the company, and more novelty.

Here are the top five:

  • Has the team thought about what possibilities there are with your mascot Asteroid? Whether it’s starting additional foundations for kids in its name, helping kids learn about space, etc. Kids are our future, and Asteroid would be a fun and easy way to help.
  • Baby Asteroid is already making a difference through charity around the world. Could SpaceX take it even further with programs that inspire kids to explore space?
  • SpaceX has some legendary vehicle names. Would you ever allow the public to name a Starship, even knowing there is a 99% chance it becomes Shipy McShipface?
  • When can we expect to see more footage of the Human Landing System?
  • Will Asteroid (your mascot) go to Mars?

SpaceX will report its earnings today, August 4, at 4:30 P.M. EDT.

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SpaceX’s biggest test yet arrives this week and it’s not a rocket launch

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SpaceX will report second quarter results after the market closes on Tuesday, August 4, marking the first time the company has opened its books to the public since its record IPO in June. Management will host a live audio only webcast at 4:30 p.m. ET, streamed on X, with no dial in option.

The debut carries more weight than a typical first quarter as a public company. Two trading days after the release, on August 6, the first tranche of SpaceX’s lockup expires, freeing roughly 911.5 million insider and employee shares, worth well over $100 billion at current prices and the largest such release in Wall Street history. A second, larger tranche tied to the stock trading 30 percent above its $135 IPO price never triggered, since shares have spent most of July trading below that price.

Wall Street’s models point to revenue near $6.9 billion for the quarter, up sharply from the $4.69 billion SpaceX reported in the first quarter, with a narrower per share loss than the $1.27 posted three months earlier, according to estimates compiled by Motley Fool. Those numbers will be the first look at how SpaceX’s three segments, Starlink, launch and AI, are performing independently.

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Investors heading into the call have a specific list of questions. How many net new Starlink subscribers did SpaceX add after ending March with 10.3 million, and is average revenue per user holding up as the service expands into lower income markets. How much of the AI segment’s revenue reflects contract signings with Anthropic, Google and Reflection AI this year, deals that combined could annualize to nearly $28 billion if fully ramped. Whether capital expenditures, which nearly doubled in the AI segment alone between 2024 and 2025, are still accelerating or starting to plateau. And whether management offers any forward guidance at all, something SpaceX has never done publicly.

The report will also land days after Elon Musk publicly denied a Wall Street Journal report describing internal planning to separate Tesla’s China business ahead of a potential Tesla-SpaceX merger. Whether Musk or SpaceX executives address that speculation on the call, even indirectly, maybe something investors will be listening for on Tuesday.

As Teslarati reported after Musk’s own warning to short sellers last week, the CEO has made clear he expects skeptics to be proven wrong over time. Tuesday will be the first chance for the numbers themselves to make that case.

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Tesla AI boss reveals how big Optimus is going to get

Tesla’s Optimus chief corrected himself on X, confirming a staggering 10 million robot production target.

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Tesla’s Optimus program has a new number attached to it, after Ashok Elluswamy, the executive who has run the humanoid robot program since June 2025, posted a three word correction on X Thursday, “Correction, 10 million robots.”

The line clarifies the long term annual capacity Tesla is building toward its planned second Optimus production line at Gigafactory Texas, a figure Musk has cited repeatedly since last year’s shareholder meeting.

The scale is worth noting, because ten million robots a year would mean Tesla building more units annually than most countries sell in new cars. Tesla has framed this as a second line, not the first. The buildout is happening in two phases: a roughly one million unit per year line inside Tesla’s Fremont factory, installed on the floor space vacated when Model S and Model X production ended earlier this year, and a much larger dedicated facility under construction at Giga Texas that broke ground on its first steel structure in May. That Texas facility is the one Elluswamy’s correction refers to, and is expected to reach volume production sometime in 2027.

Tesla Optimus project fires up as Musk sees production line progress

Elluswamy took over Optimus from Milan Kovac last summer and has spent the months since talking up the program’s trajectory. Elon Musk has also floated the ten million figure at Tesla’s 2025 shareholder meeting.

Ending Model S and Model X production to make room for the first Optimus line was one of the more consequential manufacturing decisions in the company’s recent history, retiring two flagship vehicles in favor of a robot that has yet to enter mass production. Musk has previously estimated per unit production costs at $20,000 to $25,000 once Tesla reaches a million units a year, though he hasn’t said what that cost looks like at ten times the volume.

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