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Tesla’s Q3 2018 earnings call: What we expect to see

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In a rather surprising announcement on Monday, Tesla revealed that it was releasing its Q3 2018 earnings report after the closing bell on Wednesday. The earlier-than-expected earnings call appears to have fostered positive sentiments among the company’s investors, and coupled with a change of heart from a staunch TSLA short-seller, Tesla stock (NASDAQ:TSLA) saw a 12.72% rise on Tuesday, bringing the company within reach of the $300-per-share-mark once more.

While Tesla was able to hit its production and delivery targets in Q3, questions remain about whether the company was able to turn a profit as promised by CEO Elon Musk. That said, Wall Street analysts polled by FactSet expect Tesla to post revenue of $6.05 billion and a GAAP EPS of -$0.95, partly due to a major increase in Model 3 deliveries in the third quarter. Non-GAAP EPS consensus is a more favorable -$0.03.

With these in mind, here are some pertinent updates and information we are expecting to see in Tesla’s Q3 2018 earnings call.

Profitability and Cash-Flow Updates

Earlier this year, Elon Musk boldly declared that Tesla would be profitable and cash-flow positive in the second half of the year. The company went through great lengths in its efforts to achieve this ambitious target, from laying off 9% of its employees last June to allowing owners to help out the company deliver as many vehicles as possible in the final weeks of the third quarter.

Wall Street analysts polled by FactSet expect the company to report a modest amount of positive free cash flow for the third and fourth quarter. Non-GAAP EPS is also expected to improve to $0.78 in Q4. In the upcoming earnings call, Tesla would likely offer some updates on its profit outlook in its shareholder letter.

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A fleet of Tesla Model 3.

Model 3 Production and Margins

In Tesla’s Q2 shareholder letter, the company stated that it is aiming to grow Model 3 production to 10,000 units per week as soon as it can. Tesla also aimed to produce the Model 3 at a rate of 6,000 per week by late August — a goal that the company was unable to attain. In today’s earnings call, Tesla is expected to provide an updated guidance for the Model 3 ramp.

Back in August, Tesla noted that it expects Model 3 gross margins (GM) to improve to 15% and 20% in Q4. These figures are a bit more conservative than Tesla’s initial forecasts for the vehicle, which estimated gross margins to be at 25% when production is stabilized at 5,000 units per week. The upcoming earnings call should provide some guidance as to where the Model 3’s gross margins are at this point, and where it could be at the end of Q4.

The $35,000 base Model 3 and the Model Y

Tesla has pretty much hit its stride with the production of the Long Range RWD, Dual Motor AWD, and Dual Motor Performance Model 3. Earlier this month, the company also revealed the Mid Range RWD Model 3, a vehicle that places the electric car’s price closer to Elon Musk’s $35,000 starting price for the electric sedan. Considering that the company has left its self-imposed production hell, the time might be right for Tesla to provide some updated guidance as to when the long-promised $35,000 Model 3 would enter production.

Updates on other upcoming vehicles are also expected, particularly the next car in the company’s lineup — the Model Y. Considering that Elon Musk has teased an unveiling sometime early next year for the crossover SUV, there is a good chance that the upcoming Q3 2018 earnings call would provide a more concrete date for the highly-anticipated vehicle’s unveiling.

Tesla’s 100 MW/129 MWh Powerpack system dubbed as the ‘World’s largest battery’ in Jamestown, Australia.

Tesla Energy Updates

Tesla Energy does not attract as many headlines as the company’s electric car business. Despite this, the company’s executives including CEO Elon Musk and CTO JB Straubel have both noted that Tesla’s energy storage business would likely match the company’s electric car division in the near future. This was highlighted recently by legendary investor Ron Baron, who stated that Tesla could become a $1 trillion company by 2030, comprised of a $500 billion electric car division and a $500 billion battery storage business. 

Wall Street analysts’ consensus for Tesla Energy estimates the business to post revenue of $377 million (up 19%), and a gross profit of just $20 million. Announcements on upcoming battery storage projects are also expected to be discussed in the upcoming call.

Tesla’s New Chairman

As part of his settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Elon Musk agreed to step down as Tesla’s Chairman. Reports eventually emerged that board member James Murdoch was in line to take on Musk’s role. These reports were eventually debunked by Elon Musk himself on Twitter, though, leaving Tesla’s next chairman still a large question mark.

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On Wednesday’s earnings call, expectations are high that the company would provide some updates on its search for a new Chairman to replace Elon Musk. Other terms of the CEO’s settlement with the SEC, particularly the addition of two new independent board members, would likely be discussed as well.  

Tesla’s Q3 Update letter would be posted on Tesla’s Investor Relations website after markets close today. At 3:30 pm Pacific Time (6:30 pm Eastern Time), Tesla would start its Q3 earnings call.

Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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Tesla blacklisted by Swedish pension fund AP7 as it sells entire stake

A Swedish pension fund is offloading its Tesla holdings for good.

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Tesla shares have been blacklisted by the Swedish pension fund AP7, who said earlier today that it has “verified violations of labor rights in the United States” by the automaker.

The fund ended up selling its entire stake, which was worth around $1.36 billion when it liquidated its holdings in late May. Reuters first reported on AP7’s move.

Other pension and retirement funds have relinquished some of their Tesla holdings due to CEO Elon Musk’s involvement in politics, among other reasons, and although the company’s stock has been a great contributor to growth for many funds over the past decade, these managers are not willing to see past the CEO’s right to free speech.

However, AP7 says the move is related not to Musk’s involvement in government nor his political stances. Instead, the fund said it verified several labor rights violations in the U.S.:

“AP7 has decided to blacklist Tesla due to verified violations of labor rights in the United States. Despite several years of dialogue with Tesla, including shareholder proposals in collaboration with other investors, the company has not taken sufficient measures to address the issues.”

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Tesla made up about 1 percent of the AP7 Equity Fund, according to a spokesperson. This equated to roughly 13 billion crowns, but the fund’s total assets were about 1,181 billion crowns at the end of May when the Tesla stake was sold off.

Tesla has had its share of labor lawsuits over the past few years, just as any large company deals with at some point or another. There have been claims of restrictions against labor union supporters, including one that Tesla was favored by judges, as they did not want pro-union clothing in the factory. Tesla argued that loose-fitting clothing presented a safety hazard, and the courts agreed.

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There have also been claims of racism at the Fremont Factory by a former elevator contractor named Owen Diaz. He was awarded a substantial sum of $137m. However, U.S. District Judge William Orrick ruled the $137 million award was excessive, reducing it to $15 million. Diaz rejected this sum.

Another jury awarded Diaz $3.2 million. Diaz’s legal team said this payout was inadequate. He and Tesla ultimately settled for an undisclosed amount.

AP7 did not list any of the current labor violations that it cited as its reason for

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xAI targets $5 billion debt offering to fuel company goals

Elon Musk’s xAI is targeting a $5B debt raise, led by Morgan Stanley, to scale its artificial intelligence efforts.

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xAI’s $5 billion debt offering, marketed by Morgan Stanley, underscores Elon Musk’s ambitious plans to expand the artificial intelligence venture. The xAI package comprises bonds and two loans, highlighting the company’s strategic push to fuel its artificial intelligence development.

Last week, Morgan Stanley began pitching a floating-rate term loan B at 97 cents on the dollar with a variable interest rate of 700 basis points over the SOFR benchmark, one source said. A second option offers a fixed-rate loan and bonds at 12%, with terms contingent on investor appetite. This “best efforts” transaction, where the debt size hinges on demand, reflects cautious lending in an uncertain economic climate.

According to Reuters sources, Morgan Stanley will not guarantee the issue volume or commit its own capital in the xAI deal, marking a shift from past commitments. The change in approach stems from lessons learned during Musk’s 2022 X acquisition when Morgan Stanley and six other banks held $13 billion in debt for over two years.

Morgan Stanley and the six other banks backing Musk’s X acquisition could only dispose of that debt earlier this year. They capitalized on X’s improved operating performance over the previous two quarters as traffic on the platform increased engagement around the U.S. presidential elections. This time, Morgan Stanley’s prudent strategy mitigates similar risks.

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Beyond debt, xAI is in talks to raise $20 billion in equity, potentially valuing the company between $120 billion and $200 billion, sources said. In April, Musk hinted at a significant valuation adjustment for xAI, stating he was looking to put a “proper value” on xAI during an investor call.

As xAI pursues this $5 billion debt offering, its financial strategy positions it to lead the AI revolution, blending innovation with market opportunity.

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Tesla tops Cathie Wood’s stock picks, predicts $2,600 surge

Tesla’s future lies beyond cars—with robotaxis, humanoid bots & AI-driven factories. Cathie Wood predicts a 9x surge in 5 years.

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Cathie Wood shared that Tesla is her top stock pick. During Steven Bartlett’s podcast “The Diary Of A CEO,” the Ark Invest founder highlighted Tesla’s innovative edge, citing its convergence of robotics, energy storage, and AI.

“Because think about it. It is a convergence among three of our major platforms. So, robots, energy storage, AI,” Wood said of Tesla. She emphasized the company’s potential beyond its current offerings, particularly with its Optimus robots.

“And it’s not stopping with robotaxis; there’s a story beyond that with humanoid robots, and our $2,600 number has nothing for humanoid robots. We just thought it’d be an investment, period,” she added.

In June 2024, Ark Invest issued a $2,600 price target for Tesla, which Wood reaffirmed in a March Bloomberg interview, projecting the stock to reach this level within five years. She told Bartlett that Tesla’s Optimus robots would drive productivity gains and create new revenue streams.

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Elon Musk echoed Wood’s optimism in a CNBC interview last month.

“We expect to have thousands of Optimus robots working in Tesla factories by the end of this year, beginning this fall. And we expect to scale Optimus up faster than any product, I think, in history to get to millions of units per year as soon as possible,” Musk said.

Tesla’s stock has faced volatility lately, hitting a peak closing price of $479 in December after President Donald Trump’s election win. However, Musk’s involvement with the White House DOGE office triggered protests and boycotts, contributing to a stock decline of over 40% from mid-December highs by March.

The volatility in Tesla stock alarmed investors, who urged Musk to refocus on the company. In a May earnings call, Musk responded, stating he would be “scaling down his involvement with DOGE to focus on Tesla.” Through it all, Cathie Wood and Ark Invest maintained their faith in Tesla. Wood, in particular, predicted that the “brand damage” Tesla experienced earlier this year would not be long term.

Despite recent fluctuations, Wood’s confidence in Tesla underscores its potential to redefine industries through AI and robotics. As Musk shifts his focus back to Tesla, the company’s advancements in Optimus and other innovations could drive it toward Wood’s ambitious $2,600 target, positioning Tesla as a leader in the evolving tech landscape.

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