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Tesla fans believe Ford is the ‘major OEM’ discussing Full Self-Driving licensing
Tesla fans overwhelmingly believe Ford is the “major OEM” that the automaker is in discussions with to license the Full Self-Driving suite.
Last week during Tesla’s Q2 2023 Earnings Call, CEO Elon Musk said the automaker was in “early discussions with a major OEM” regarding the licensing of Full Self-Driving:
“And we are already in discussions with — early discussions with major OEM about using Tesla FSD. So, we’re not trying to keep this to ourselves. We’re more than happy to license it to others.”
The move was not necessarily surprising, as Musk had said a month earlier that Tesla was “happy to license” either Autopilot or Full Self-Driving, as well as other Tesla technology.
For example, we have seen various car companies adopt Tesla’s North American Charging Standard (NACS) connector, and Ford was the first to do so. General Motors followed.
After Tesla’s announcement regarding its early discussions with a major automaker, speculation persisted on which company was most likely to be in talks to license Full Self-Driving.
Tesla fans seem to believe it is Ford.
Right after Musk made the comments, we posted a question on our Twitter page that asked followers who they thought it was. An overwhelming number of respondents said Ford.
Definitely Ford.
— It’s Electric (@evhelphub) July 19, 2023
There were plenty of other companies mentioned by those who chose to respond, like Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, General Motors, and Rivian.
Volkswagen and Tesla had a good and very public relationship when the German automaker had Herbert Diess at the helm. However, that relationship has cooled, but it does not mean the companies are not still on good terms and perhaps in discussions.
Mercedes-Benz has a Level 3 system that has been approved for operation in Nevada, California, and parts of Germany. We would be prone to believe Mercedes-Benz would continue with the development of its own suite.
General Motors has Super Cruise, which is also a successful program in terms of where self-driving efforts are in this day and age. CNBC’s test of the suite revealed a Cadillac could be driven for an hour, in some instances, without ever needing to take control of the vehicle.
Rivian, at least in our and many other perspectives, doesn’t match the description of a “major OEM.”
Who do you think Tesla is in early discussions with regarding FSD licensing? Please email me with questions and comments at joey@teslarati.com. I’d love to chat! You can also reach me on Twitter @KlenderJoey, or if you have news tips, you can email us at tips@teslarati.com.
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Tesla China’s new six-seat Model Y L already sold out through October
New Tesla Model Y L orders now show an estimated delivery date of November 2025 at the earliest.

Tesla’s new Model Y L is sold out for October in China, with new orders showing an estimated delivery date of November 2025 at the earliest.
The extended-wheelbase variant, launched in August and first delivered this month, has quickly become one of Tesla’s strongest-selling vehicles in its key overseas market.
Demand and expectations
Tesla China initially positioned the Model Y L for September deliveries, with Vice President Grace Tao confirming on Weibo that the vehicle would begin reaching customers this September. True to that promise, the first handovers of the vehicle started last week. Since its launch, the six-seat crossover has sold out its September and October allocations, hinting at healthy demand.
Industry estimates suggested that Tesla received more than 35,000 orders for the Model Y L on launch day alone. While some Model Y L orders may overlap with those of the standard Model Y, industry watchers have noted that the six-seat, extended wheelbase variant is expanding the company’s total addressable market by appealing to car buyers who need more space and seating.
Tesla China boost
The Model Y L’s strong momentum is significant as Tesla navigates a competitive Chinese EV sector. With deliveries now stretching into November, the new crossover could potentially lift Tesla’s quarterly sales performance and help maintain its relevance in a market dominated by fast-moving domestic brands.
Beyond China, the extended-wheelbase Model Y L may also serve as a strategic export product for markets where larger family vehicles are in demand. Its early sellout performance suggests that Tesla has tapped into a new growth lever within its most successful vehicle lineup. With a starting price of RMB 339,000 ($47,180), after all, the Model Y L has the makings of a true bang-for-the-buck vehicle.
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Tesla targets Bay Area airports as next step for Robotaxi rollout
The update was initially reported by Politico, which cited records that it reportedly obtained.

Tesla has expressed interest in operating its Robotaxi ride-hailing service in three of Silicon Valley’s busiest airports, as per the company’s communications with California regulators.
The update was initially reported by Politico, which cited records that it reportedly obtained.
Key Robotaxi battleground
As per the publication, Casey Blaine, Tesla’s senior regulatory counsel, informed regulators in California that the electric vehicle maker was “initiating engagement with the following airports to secure the necessary approvals to conduct pick-ups/drop-offs: San Francisco International Airport, San Jose Mineta International Airport, and Oakland International Airport.”
High-traffic airports have long been a focal point for autonomous vehicle firms like Waymo, which recently secured permits to operate in San Jose and is progressing in San Francisco after a lengthy battle with labor groups. By pursuing airport access, Tesla seems to be hinting that it wants a share of the same market. Regulators confirmed that Tesla has opened discussions with each Bay Area airport, though no permits have been granted yet.
Regulator visit
California’s Public Utilities Commission, the state’s primary ride-hailing regulator, has reportedly engaged directly with Tesla in recent months. Agency officials reportedly visited Tesla’s Palo Alto offices to learn more about the company’s ride-hailing program and its technology. Agency spokesperson Terrie Prosper shared some insights about the matter.
“CPUC staff are aware of Tesla’s recently expanded Bay Area charter-party carrier service and associated app. As for any charter-party carrier regulated by the CPUC, staff engages to exchange information, promote safety, and monitor compliance with applicable rules and regulations. Among other things, we appreciate and expect Tesla and all carriers to properly and clearly represent its service to the public,” Proper noted.
Tesla has already allowed Bay Area riders to book trips through its Robotaxi app, which launched to select customers in July before opening publicly in September. Videos posted online show Tesla’s driverless cars are still operating with safety drivers, though Musk has suggested that the service could be fully driverless by the end of the year.
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Analyst: Elon Musk’s $1 trillion Tesla pay deal modest against robot market potential
Jonas highlighted Tesla’s longer-term ambitions in robotics as a key factor in his assessment.

Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas, one of Wall Street’s most ardent Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) bulls today, has described Elon Musk’s newly proposed $1 trillion performance-based compensation package as a “good deal” for investors.
In a note shared this week, Jonas argued that the package helps align the interests of Musk and Tesla’s minority shareholders, despite its shockingly high headline number.
Future market opportunities
Jonas highlighted Tesla’s longer-term ambitions in robotics as a key factor in his assessment. “Yes, a trillion bucks is a big number, but (it) is rather modest compared to the size of the market opportunity,” Jonas wrote. He added that the humanoid robot market could ultimately surpass the size of today’s global labor market “by a significant multiple.”
“We have entertained scenarios where the humanoid robot market can exceed the size of today’s global labor market… by a significant multiple,” Jonas wrote, as shared on X by Tesla watcher Sawyer Merritt.
The analyst likened the arrival of AI-powered robotics to the transformative effect of electricity, noting that “contemplating future global GDP before AI robots is like contemplating global GDP before electricity.” The Morgan Stanley analyst’s insights align with the idea that as much as 80% of Tesla’s future valuation could be tied to its Optimus humanoid robot program.
Elon Musk’s pay package
Tesla’s board has tied Elon Musk’s proposed compensation package to some of the most ambitious targets in corporate history. The 2025 CEO Performance Award requires the automaker’s valuation to soar from roughly $1.1 trillion today to $8.5 trillion over the next decade, a level that would make Tesla the most valuable company in existence.
The plan also demands a leap in Tesla’s operating profit, from $17 billion in 2024 to $400 billion annually. It also ties the CEO’s compensation to a number of product milestones, including the delivery of 20 million vehicles in total, 10 million active Full Self-Driving subscriptions, 1 million Tesla Bots, and 1 million Robotaxis in operation. Tesla’s board emphasized that Musk’s leadership was fundamental to achieving such ambitious goals, with Chair Robyn Denholm noting the award would align the CEO’s incentives with long-term shareholder value.
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