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Tesla battery supplier LGES confirms 4680 cell development, posts $3.7B revenue for Q4 2021

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LGES told Teslarati that it is working to diversify its cylindrical battery lineup and is developing 4680 batteries. The battery manufacturer did not disclose any client-related matters, specifically regarding 4680 batteries. However, the Korean battery supplier is a confirmed Tesla partner. 

LGES reported a quarterly revenue of KRW 4.44 trillion ($3.7 billion), up 10.2% from the previous quarter. The company’s quarterly revenue growth was attributed to robust demand for pouch and cylindrical battery cells for electric vehicles and small-sized pouch batteries for IT devices. The company also reported a full-year revenue of KRW 17.85 trillion ($14 billion) for 2021, up 42% compared to 2020. 

LGES expects its revenue to reach KRW 19.2 trillion ($16 billion) in 2022, up 8% year-over-year, partly based on steady growth in the EV market. This year the battery supplier plans to steadily expand its manufacturing capacity. In preparation for partner automakers’ new lineup of electric vehicles, LGES will put KRW 6.3 trillion ($5 billion) in capital expenditures, up 58% compared to 2021.

“LG Energy Solution will excel by prioritizing the fundamentals of quality and securing profitability,” said Youngsoo Kwon, CEO of LG Energy Solution. “LGES will continue to move forward with bold investment plans needed in the long run. We are confident our business model of preparing for the future will definitely help us lead the industry.”

Tesla’s 4680 battery cell supply

At the TSLA Q4 and Full Year 2021 earnings call, Tesla stated that all its partners and suppliers were working on its 4680 form factor

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“On the 4680 as a form factor, yes, we’ve engaged with a number of our, you know, partners or suppliers on the form factor, and they’re all working on it. And, you know, they look at it the way we look at it as a way to drive fundamental cost efficiencies in production and also, ultimately, the design of the cell itself to drive the cost down of the cell,” stated Drew Baglino, Tesla’s Senior VP of Powertrain and Energy Engineering, during the last earnings call. 

Baglino also shared that Tesla focused on growing its cell supply alongside its in-house 4680 effort throughout 2021. He added that sales from suppliers exceeded Tesla’s other factory-limiting constraints. Tesla’s Senior VP of Powertrain and Energy Engineering stated that 4680 cells are not a constraint to the company’s 2022 volume plans based on the information it had during the Q4 2021 earnings call. 

Tesla believes the first vehicles with 4680 battery cells could be delivered this quarter. Giga Texas is already building Model Ys with Tesla’s structural battery packs and 4680 cells.

Below is LG Energy Solution’s Q4 and FY 2021 results.

LG Energy Solution Announces Q4 and FY 2021 Results by Maria Merano on Scribd

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Tesla dispels reports of ‘sales suspension’ in California

“This was a “consumer protection” order about the use of the term “Autopilot” in a case where not one single customer came forward to say there’s a problem.

Sales in California will continue uninterrupted.”

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Tesla has dispelled reports that it is facing a thirty-day sales suspension in California after the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) issued a penalty to the company after a judge ruled it “misled consumers about its driver-assistance technology.”

On Tuesday, Bloomberg reported that the California DMV was planning to adopt the penalty but decided to put it on ice for ninety days, giving Tesla an opportunity to “come into compliance.”

Tesla enters interesting situation with Full Self-Driving in California

Tesla responded to the report on Tuesday evening, after it came out, stating that this was a “consumer protection” order that was brought up over its use of the term “Autopilot.”

The company said “not one single customer came forward to say there’s a problem,” yet a judge and the DMV determined it was, so they want to apply the penalty if Tesla doesn’t oblige.

However, Tesla said that its sales operations in California “will continue uninterrupted.”

It confirmed this in an X post on Tuesday night:

The report and the decision by the DMV and Judge involved sparked outrage from the Tesla community, who stated that it should do its best to get out of California.

One X post said California “didn’t deserve” what Tesla had done for it in terms of employment, engineering, and innovation.

Tesla has used Autopilot and Full Self-Driving for years, but it did add the term “(Supervised)” to the end of the FSD suite earlier this year, potentially aiming to protect itself from instances like this one.

This is the first primary dispute over the terminology of Full Self-Driving, but it has undergone some scrutiny at the federal level, as some government officials have claimed the suite has “deceptive” naming. Previous Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg was vocally critical of the use of the name “Full Self-Driving,” as well as “Autopilot.”

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New EV tax credit rule could impact many EV buyers

We confirmed with a Tesla Sales Advisor that any current orders that have the $7,500 tax credit applied to them must be completed by December 31, meaning delivery must take place by that date. However, it is unclear at this point whether someone could still claim the credit when filing their tax returns for 2025 as long as the order reflects an order date before September 30.

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Tesla owners could be impacted by a new EV tax credit rule, which seems to be a new hoop to jump through for those who benefited from the “extension,” which allowed orderers to take delivery after the loss of the $7,500 discount.

After the Trump Administration initiated the phase-out of the $7,500 EV tax credit, many were happy to see the rules had been changed slightly, as deliveries could occur after the September 30 cutoff as long as orders were placed before the end of that month.

However, there appears to be a new threshold that EV buyers will have to go through, and it will impact their ability to get the credit, at least at the Point of Sale, for now.

Delivery must be completed by the end of the year, and buyers must take possession of the car by December 31, 2025, or they will lose the tax credit. The U.S. government will be closing the tax credit portal, which allows people to claim the credit at the Point of Sale.

We confirmed with a Tesla Sales Advisor that any current orders that have the $7,500 tax credit applied to them must be completed by December 31, meaning delivery must take place by that date.

However, it is unclear at this point whether someone could still claim the credit when filing their tax returns for 2025 as long as the order reflects an order date before September 30.

If not, the order can still go through, but the buyer will not be able to claim the tax credit, meaning they will pay full price for the vehicle.

This puts some buyers in a strange limbo, especially if they placed an order for the Model Y Performance. Some deliveries have already taken place, and some are scheduled before the end of the month, but many others are not expecting deliveries until January.

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Elon Musk takes latest barb at Bill Gates over Tesla short position

Bill Gates placed a massive short bet against Tesla of ~1% of our total shares, which might have cost him over $10B by now

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Elon Musk took his latest barb at former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates over his short position against the company, which the two have had some tensions over for a number of years.

Gates admitted to Musk several years ago through a text message that he still held a short position against his sustainable car and energy company. Ironically, Gates had contacted Musk to explore philanthropic opportunities.

Elon Musk explains Bill Gates beef: He ‘placed a massive bet on Tesla dying’

Musk said he could not take the request seriously, especially as Gates was hoping to make money on the downfall of the one company taking EVs seriously.

The Tesla frontman has continued to take shots at Gates over the years from time to time, but the latest comment came as Musk’s net worth swelled to over $600 billion. He became the first person ever to reach that threshold earlier this week, when Tesla shares increased due to Robotaxi testing without any occupants.

Musk refreshed everyone’s memory with the recent post, stating that if Gates still has his short position against Tesla, he would have lost over $10 billion by now:

Just a month ago, in mid-November, Musk issued his final warning to Gates over the short position, speculating whether the former Microsoft frontman had still held the bet against Tesla.

“If Gates hasn’t fully closed out the crazy short position he has held against Tesla for ~8 years, he had better do so soon,” Musk said. This came in response to The Gates Foundation dumping 65 percent of its Microsoft position.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk sends final warning to Bill Gates over short position

Musk’s involvement in the U.S. government also drew criticism from Gates, as he said that the reductions proposed by DOGE against U.S.A.I.D. were “stunning” and could cause “millions of additional deaths of kids.”

“Gates is a huge liar,” Musk responded.

It is not known whether Gates still holds his Tesla short position.

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