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Tesla will remove performance limiting algorithm from cars in next software update

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Tesla’s President of Global Sales and Service, Jon McNeill, has indicated that performance limiting software will be removed from Model S and Model X vehicles in the next over-the-air software update. McNeill’s announcement, made on the Tesla Motors Club (TMC) forum, follows reports that the company was limiting power on performance versions of its Model S and Model X vehicles through a software algorithm designed to protect the vehicle’s powertrain from excessive wear and tear. However, despite the intended safeguards, Tesla owners questioned whether it was right for the electric car maker to ‘downgrade’ performance on a vehicle that was intentionally purchased for its touted acceleration capabilities.

UPDATE: Tesla removes performance restrictions in new software update

Tesla Performance Limiting Discovered

Teslarati was first notified of the potential issue back in September of last year when local friend and Ludicrous Model S P90D owner, best known as Tech_Guy on TMC, sent us graphs showing the loss in power on his vehicle. At first, the issue was thought to be a result of the Firmware 8.0 update that introduced Tesla’s, then, latest Autopilot feature which put radar technology at the forefront.

Power graph provided via the PowerTools app

Not sure of the cause for the power loss, Tech_Guy solicited feedback from his local Tesla Service Center only to be told that software on his Ludicrous Model S has limited power output because of too many uses of Tesla’s Launch Mode feature. The issue would eventually be surfaced across TMC, with other owners reporting the same loss in power. More alarming is the discovery that Tesla’s power limiting safeguard was taking place on non-Ludicrous cars and affecting owners with Tesla’s P85D vehicle. Even early P85 cars that pre-dated the company’s dual motor configuration were reported to be affected.

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Tesla would later add a disclaimer to its online Design Studio confirming that limiting controls may be placed to protect the performance and longevity of the powertrain.

It’s not just ‘Launch Mode’ and ‘Max Power’

Service descriptions coming from owners who were concerned that their newly purchased inventory car, or in some instances their certified pre-owned Performance variant, might have been affected by the power limiting software, revealed that Tesla did in fact use an algorithm to ‘count’ presumably the number of times a vehicle was driven under wide open throttle.

The discovery of a possible performance ‘counter’ raises a question of ethics. If an owner purchased a used P85D that was performance limited as a result of too many hard acceleration runs in the past, will the owner know and is it right for Tesla to downgrade the vehicle to essentially an 85D status though they paid for a P85D? The same goes for inventory vehicles which one can argue is more likely to be driven under wide open acceleration, for demonstration purposes, than a brand new vehicle belonging to an owner.

Show me the Power

Hailed as a hero among the Tesla owners community, Tech_Guy blew the whistle and surfaced an issue that quite possibly may have never been discovered.

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On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 4:41 PM Pacific Time, Jon McNeill, Tesla’s President of Global Sales and Service responded to concerns surfaced on TMC with the following:

Based on your input, we have decided to remove all software performance reductions tied to frequent max power usage. These changes will roll out with our next software update (in about three weeks).

We had put these reductions in place to proactively protect the powertrain from wear and tear. Instead, we will monitor the condition of the powertrain and let our customers know if service is needed so that we can take proactive steps, such as by replacing parts if necessary, to maintain the vehicle’s performance.

Heavy-footed Tesla drivers rejoice. You’re getting your power back.

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Gene has been obsessed with cars since before he could legally sit in the front seat. Writer, researcher, unofficial CS support, accountant, native suit guy when needed, and overall stick poker. He approaches every story the way he approaches a road trip: with too much enthusiasm, not enough planning, and a surprisingly good outcome. gene@teslarati.com

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Tesla reveals huge Cybercab detail in new guide for First Responders

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Tesla revealed a major new Cybercab detail in a guide it released for First Responders, showing new territory in its beliefs and intentions for the ride-hailing-focused vehicle that entered production in April.

The First Responders Guide is released to give fire departments, paramedics, and other emergency personnel the proper guidance on what to do in the event of an accident, entrapment, or other situation that would require immediate attention.

On one of the pages of the First Responders Guide, Tesla revealed a stark detail about the Cybercab, which could help personnel enter the vehicle more easily in case of an emergency.

Tesla Cybercab has one important piece that AI4 cars might need for FSD

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It shows Tesla has no intention of releasing any Cybercab units that were initially proposed for ride-hailing services for the general public with any manual controls, meaning a steering wheel or pedals:

“A Cybercab equipped with steering wheel, brake pedal, and an acceleration pedal is typically an engineering or test vehicle, and operates at SAE Level 2 autonomy. Cybercab is not typically equipped with a steering wheel or acceleration and brake pedals.”

This is a major development for those who continue to believe Tesla planned to release the Cybercab with any sort of manual controls so that passengers could take over if needed. However, when Tesla started manufacturing production versions of the Cybercab in Giga Texas earlier this year, they were spotted without a steering wheel or pedals.

It essentially confirms the company has no intentions of bringing manual controls to the car’s production versions. Some have argued that the likelihood of Tesla having something

There still are some Cybercab units out there with a steering wheel and pedals, and as Tesla said, these cars are engineering or test vehicles, which have Safety Monitors on board to help the car out of a precarious situation or emergency.

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Tesla Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ Release Notes: new capabilities and features

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Tesla released the Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ suite to owners of Hardware 3 or AI3 vehicles today, adding several new features to the vehicles that were once believed to be capable of unsupervised self-driving.

Now, Tesla has released this modified suite to older Tesla vehicles, adding plenty of new features and capabilities.

Here are the full release notes for the suite:

  • Distilled the intelligence from HW4 V14 into HW3. This allows HW3 to directly learn how to handle scenarios using HW4 V14 as a guide. This process unlocks the improvements that have been made to HW4 including Reinforcement Learning (RL) and offline models for HW3.
  • Improved both proactive and reactive responsiveness across a wide variety of categories including navigation handling, merges and forks, pedestrian interactions, traffic lights, and vehicle cut-in scenarios.
  • Improved general comfort in nominal scenarios through fewer false slowdowns, smoother steering and more consistent lane centering.
  • Introduced parking, unparking, and reversing capabilities.
  • Added Arrival Options for you to select where FSD should park: in a Parking Lot, on the Street, in a Driveway, or at the Curbside.
  • Speed Profiles are now available at all times, to further customize driving style preference.

These improvements, according to Tesla’s Head of AI, Ashok Elluswamy, help distill the driving behavior from AI4’s v14 series into both the camera and compute configurations of AI3.

Tesla Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ for older cars finally gets released

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He added:

“It includes destination options and speed profiles on city roads, but more importantly significantly improved safety. We hope you’ll enjoy it, once the build ships wide.”

Tesla will continue to roll out the v14 Lite suite more widely in the coming weeks, the company said.

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Tesla Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ for older cars finally gets released

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Tesla has finally released its Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ suite for older cars that equip the Hardware 3 or AI 3 chip, which have not been able to handle the newest versions of the company’s driver assistance software.

Tesla officially started releasing the v14 Lite suite to owners in the Early Access Program last night. The company’s Head of AI, Ashok Elluswamy, said that the rollout will continue over the next few weeks. The build distills the driving behavior from AI4’s v14 series into both the camera and compute configurations of an AI3 car.

It also includes a variety of new features that were available to AI4 cars running v14, including:

  • Start Self-Driving from Park
  • Arrival and Parking Options
  • Speed Profiles

The release is highly anticipated because those owners with AI3 vehicles were early adopters into the FSD platform and were promised that their cars would be capable of achieving Full Self-Driving.

However, Tesla CEO Elon Musk admitted during the company’s recent Q1 Earnings Call that these vehicles would not be capable of achieving unsupervised Full Self-Driving, which is what Tesla had originally said.

Owners were not pleased with this answer, or the idea that their commitment to buying the suite outright for thousands of dollars would not yield the ability to drive without operating the car. Tesla gave some solutions for this, including a discount on a new car, or an upgrade to an AI4 or AI5 self-driving computer and new, upgraded cameras.

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Tesla owners do not seem pleased with these options, as they require giving the company more money.

Nevertheless, it is important to note that Tesla came through for owners here by releasing v14 Lite before the end of Q2, something it had promised owners during the previous Earnings Call. Tesla has had trouble keeping up with timelines, but this is a big achievement for the team.

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