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Tesla’s self-driving CA to NY “Cannonball” run needs Alex Roy

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Alex Roy of Cannonball Run fame made his case for why Tesla CEO Elon Musk should put him in the first fully autonomous Tesla, set to take stage when it drives cross-country without human input later this year.

To establish a firm foundation for his case, Roy backs his story on The Drive with history of the epic yet controversial cross-country speed route that is the Cannonball Run. The race has a long history of disputed claims based on lack of evidence due to the inability of racers to provide sufficient corroborating evidence. VIN verifications, multiple eye witnesses and fuel receipts evolved to become supporting evidence needed in the loosely defined rules for the Cannonball Run. Roy notes that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” as the capstone for his claim.

If Tesla is going to make the truly historic claim of being the first vehicle to drive autonomously from a California parking lot to a parking lot in New York as stated by Musk earlier this year, Roy believes it will require an equal amount of evidence. How will the public know that nobody touched the steering wheel while navigating to the fourth or fourteenth Supercharger on the route? Will the public be able to trust that the run actually happened without a full and complete set of incontrovertible evidence?

Roy posits that because the run Tesla will make is not simply a timed drive across the nation but truly a technological feat that seeks to establish a basis of trust with its customers, Tesla must establish a body of evidence that is irrefutable. The stakes are too high and, perhaps more importantly, the technology and skills to implement it exist.

Finally, Alex makes the case that in the very small subset of journalists and auto enthusiasts qualified to participate in the historic event, Roy is the most capable and qualified given his long history with autos, the Cannonball Run and autonomous driving. In terms of qualifications, it is clear that Roy is in a class apart. He’s in an elite club of extreme auto racers that are just crazy enough to attempt breaking long held records held by generations past.

The challenge with this particular run is that it is not a Cannonball Run style event. It will be going cross-country but not for time and Roy acknowledges that. Tesla has never been a company to sensationalize the work it does or the milestones it achieves. Major updates are typically rolled out to stores with media left to figure out what happened, where, to whom and how much it will cost without the typical press releases or media events. Sure, it hosts events for major product releases like the Model 3 reveal last year, but it has never aimed to be a hype factory.

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Whether or not Tesla takes Roy up on his offer or plea to be the independent observer and counselor in the first vehicle of any kind to drive coast to coast fully autonomously is something we will see in due time, but another outcome is fully possible. If Tesla is so confident in its vast array of on-board camera and sensor technology – enough to be comfortable sending humans hurtling down the highway in one of its vehicles unassisted – it is also possible if not likely that it is already capturing and storing all of that sensor metadata.

With granular GPS breadcrumb data supported by feeds from the integrated camera array and a bevy of radar metadata, could it already prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it performed the trip cross country? And if someone is going to be in the car, Roy is the clear choice as he has the know-how to cover the run and an inhuman ability to wait hours and hours longer than is likely healthy to use the bathroom.

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Elon Musk drops a Thanksgiving hint about Starship’s biggest test yet

Elon Musk says Starship Flight 15 will try to catch the ship itself, a first.

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Elon Musk says SpaceX’s next Starship flight will try something nobody has done before, by catching the ship itself. Speaking to roughly 2,000 people at the X Takeover event at Giga Texas on Saturday, Musk said Flight 15 is about four to six weeks away and “probably launches a little bit before Thanksgiving, is my guess.”

That is a slip from earlier reporting, which had pointed to a launch as early as October 19. Musk explained why the date keeps moving. “We’re making a bunch of improvements to the rocket between every flight,” he said, adding that there are often hundreds, sometimes thousands, of small changes. This time the list is short, “but some of them take a fair bit of work and we’ve got to go inside the tank to make some of these changes.”

“We’re going to try to catch the ship, which is a super big deal,” Musk said. “If we do so, that’ll be the first time that there’s been full recovery of an orbital class rocket.” SpaceX has already caught the Super Heavy booster with the tower’s mechanical arms, and has talked about catching the ship since late 2025, but the upper stage has never been caught.

Musk also laid out what comes after. “The next big milestone would be to refly both the booster and the ship,” he said, describing a Flight 16 where “all parts of an orbital rocket are reflown.”

The reason SpaceX wants this comes down to cost and cadence. Every Starship ship so far has ended its flight in the ocean, and SpaceX expects most of those water landings to end in fireballs. A ship that returns to Starbase intact can be inspected and flown again. SpaceX’s IPO filing, says Starship V3 is designed to deliver 100 metric tons to orbit in a fully reusable configuration, that SpaceX aims to cut the cost to reach orbit by 99% or more versus the historical average, and that tower catches should allow “multiple launches per day.”

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The payoff goes beyond cheaper launches. The next generation Starlink V3 satellites are too large for Falcon 9 and can only fly on Starship, which can carry up to 60 per flight. Flight 14 on September 28 deployed the first 26 of them after Starship reached orbit despite an early engine shutdown, as Teslarati reported. Musk blamed engine computer software, and said the heat shield “was extremely robust,” which he claimed in August had solved Starship’s biggest challenge.

NASA’s Moon plans depend on the same capability. NASA’s inspector general has described a lander mission that needs a propellant depot in low Earth orbit and more than 10 tanker flights, with SpaceX targeting one tanker launch every six days. That schedule only works if ships and boosters come back fast and fly again. Also, ship to ship propellant transfer has not been attempted yet.

One interesting hurdle yet to be explored is bringing the ship back to the launch site, with reentry over land, which will undoubtedly come with a lot of aviation safety reviews.

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Tesla’s mirrorless Cybercab will give riders a visibility upgrade

Tesla engineer confirms Cybercab update letting riders pull up rear and repeater cameras on demand.

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Tesla Cybercab camera visibility for passengers (Credit: Dan Burkland via X)
Tesla Cybercab camera visibility for passengers (Credit: Dan Burkland via X)

Tesla is working on a Cybercab update that would let passengers pull up the vehicle’s rear and side cameras on demand, and the request came straight from a rider.

The exchange played out on X late Friday. Cybercab rider Dan Burkland shared photos of the two-seater’s cabin screen after an evening ride, praised the UI team’s work, and left one request: let riders open the rear and repeater cameras whenever they want, “especially for peace of mind.” Tesla UI software engineer Evan (@CarCoder) answered with two words: “In development.”

The idea fits a pattern Teslarati has tracked since public rides began. Days after paid Cybercab service opened in Austin, Tesla sent riders a survey that asked them to rate the touchscreen, the app and the cabin, and to pick the features they wanted most. We reported on that survey in September, and a camera view is the kind of small software change Tesla can push quickly if riders keep asking.

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It also speaks to something unique about the vehicle. With no steering wheel, no pedals and no driver, passengers have no mirror to check and no way to see behind them. The hardware is clearly built for camera awareness, from the repeater cameras to the rear camera. Letting a passenger look through those same cameras would give a nervous first time rider a way to confirm what is around the car.

The timing matters because the fleet is growing fast. Tesla’s Robotaxi account said on Saturday that more than 300 Cybercabs are now serving Austin, an eightfold increase in 30 days, and Tesla AI chief Ashok Elluswamy named Dallas as the next city. More cars and more cities mean more people riding in a driverless vehicle for the first time, which is exactly when small trust features carry weight.

For now, the feature is confirmed only as in development. If Tesla follows its usual pattern with Cybercab software, riders could see it appear in a point release without any announcement, and Teslarati will watch for it.

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Tesla’s Cybercab fleet jumped 8x in a month, with Dallas up next

Tesla confirms its first official Cybercab fleet number as Austin scales fast and Dallas looms.

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Tesla says more than 300 Cybercabs are now serving Austin, the first time the company has put an official number on its active Cybercab fleet. The figure came from the Robotaxi account on X on Saturday, which wrote that one month after launch the service had “scaled to 300+ Cybercabs serving Austin – an 8x increase in 30 days.”

Ashok Elluswamy, Tesla’s head of AI software, quoted the post with a line that carried the bigger news. “Two years since the 10/10 Cybercab WeRobot event, the cabs are everywhere in Austin now. Dallas soon,” he wrote. It is the first time Tesla has named the next city for public Cybercab rides.

Tesla opened Cybercab rides to the public in Austin on September 4, as Teslarati reported, a day after an invite only launch event. The ramp since then has been steep. Our September 28 report had the fleet at well over 100 units after availability jumped from 58 to 125 in a single week. On Thursday, Tesla added 150 Cybercabs to the Texas automated vehicle registry, lifting its registered count to 319 from 169. The first seven appeared on the registry on August 31.

RobotaxiTracker, a community site that counts vehicles from sightings and state records, listed 275 vehicles in unsupervised service in Austin on Saturday, 105 of them Cybercabs, which is well below Tesla’s figure. Tracker counts can lag official numbers, though Sawyer Merritt noted that Cybercab wait times in Austin stayed short on Saturday evening even with more than 2,000 fans in town for X Takeover.

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Regulators are watching the rollout. NHTSA opened an audit query into Tesla’s certification that the Cybercab meets federal safety standards, and sworn answers are due October 30. Tesla reports third quarter earnings on October 21, which gives the company a natural venue to define its fleet numbers and put a date on Dallas.

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