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After calling Teslas a “toy” years ago, Hyundai’s belief in hydrogen is being tested

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As the automotive sector transitions into the renewable age, the battle between all-electric cars and hydrogen-powered vehicles almost seems over. Yet even with the dominance of electric vehicles like the Model 3 and Model Y from American automaker Tesla, veteran automakers such as Hyundai are still hoping that hydrogen vehicles could eventually find their momentum. 

It is, however, not that easy. As noted by former Hanwha Investment & Securities Co. analyst Ryu Yeon-wha, who works as a green energy mobility consultant, Hyundai has gone “too far and invested too much money on hydrogen cars to stop now.” “Just two years ago, an official at Hyundai told analysts that ‘we do not make a toy like Tesla.’ They told people battery-powered electric cars wouldn’t be able to travel for more than 150 kilometers, while hydrogen cars are advantageous because of the longer-range driving,” the green energy mobility consultant said

Indeed, it would likely be difficult for Hyundai to dub Tesla’s electric cars as “toys” today, considering the sheer dominance of the Model 3 and the Model Y in the auto segment. Both vehicles have managed to break into the general auto sector, with CEO Elon Musk even noting that the Model Y has the potential to become the best-selling car in the world, period, beating vehicles like the ubiquitous Toyota Corolla. Pure electric cars have greatly improved over the years as well, and their weaknesses against hydrogen cars are becoming less and less notable. 

Hydrogen cars like the Hyundai Nexo remain a work in progress. A Bloomberg report recently cited the experience of Song Young-jin, a 38-year-old sales manager in Euiwang city, South Korea, who purchased a Hyundai Nexo, a hydrogen-powered SUV, in March 2020. Being encouraged by Hyundai’s advertising for the vehicle, the sales manager bought the SUV, but only a few months into the vehicle’s ownership, Song was exasperated. 

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Even if South Korea is one of hydrogen cars’ most successful markets, the Nexo owner still had to drive 50 km (40 miles) every week to the nearest hydrogen station to refuel his SUV. Song also looked in dismay as the value of his hydrogen vehicle in the second-hand market crashed on a used car site by about $1,000 a month. The maintenance cost for parts like the hydrogen tanks of the Nexo also proved substantial. These experiences ultimately encouraged Song to buy a pure electric car next time. 

“I liked the hydrogen car itself—it’s quiet, and charging takes just 5 minutes, faster than an electric car. But refueling stations are lacking, and the maintenance costs [for parts such as hydrogen tanks] are huge, which is probably why they’re so cheap in the used-car market. Next time, I’ll buy electric,” Song said. 

Hyundai has no intention of abandoning its hydrogen car programs, though Hyundai Motor Group Chairman Euisun Chung, since he took the company’s reins last year, has taken steps towards full electric cars. The company’s sales figures seem to speak for themselves. While the company expects to sell more hydrogen cars in the future, the fact remains that in South Korea from January through September this year, Hyundai sold about 6,400 Nexos domestically while exporting 875. Hyundai’s battery-powered cars, on the other hand, sold 87,000 units over the same period globally, as per data from Hana Financial Investment. 

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Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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Tesla Phone? Not quite, but close: analyst

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For years, there have been images and videos across social media platforms that have reminded me of when I was a 15-year-old kid teased by “Xbox 720” videos on YouTube. These videos are of the supposed “Tesla Phone” that Elon Musk was secretly developing in between leading Tesla with its electric cars and SpaceX with its reusable rockets.

Although Musk has put those rumors to bed several times, it was never completely out of the realm that he could get involved in cell phones in some capacity. Think outside the box and more macro-level, though. Instead of reinventing the computer, Musk reinvented connectivity by developing Starlink with SpaceX.

It could be something similar, TD Cowen analyst Gregory Williams said in a note last week, where he hinted SpaceX could be gathering some steam to acquire T-Mobile.

Williams said it would be the “clear choice” for SpaceX if it decided to go through with a network acquisition. He also suggested AT&T.

The move would be possible through selling more of its own stock, which would help SpaceX raise the money to purchase T-Mobile, which would cost roughly $300 billion. It could be one of the moves SpaceX makes post-IPO in terms of an acquisition: it already acquired Cursor AI for $60 billion.

Other analysts, like Dan Ives of Wedbush, believe SpaceX and Tesla will eventually merge into one anyway, and that conglomeration could come as soon as this year, some have said.

The implications of SpaceX purchasing T-Mobile are massive. A combined entity would create a truly ubiquitous network: T-Mobile’s terrestrial 5G towers and Starlink’s growing constellation of Direct-to-Cell satellites. This would essentially eliminate dead zones across the U.S. and potentially globally.

SpaceX would instantly become a full-scale facilities-based carrier with satellite differentiation; a huge advantage. This would pressure AT&T and Verizon heavily.

There are also concerns like a potential reduction in long-term competition, and of course, a deal of that size would face intense scrutiny from government agencies.

The strategic fit is compelling due to the existing Starlink–T-Mobile partnership and complementary technologies (space + terrestrial). It could create a dominant integrated communications player. However, the regulatory, financial, and execution hurdles are enormous — this remains highly speculative with no indication SpaceX is actively pursuing it right now.

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Tesla reveals huge Cybercab detail in new guide for First Responders

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Tesla revealed a major new Cybercab detail in a guide it released for First Responders, showing new territory in its beliefs and intentions for the ride-hailing-focused vehicle that entered production in April.

The First Responders Guide is released to give fire departments, paramedics, and other emergency personnel the proper guidance on what to do in the event of an accident, entrapment, or other situation that would require immediate attention.

On one of the pages of the First Responders Guide, Tesla revealed a stark detail about the Cybercab, which could help personnel enter the vehicle more easily in case of an emergency.

Tesla Cybercab has one important piece that AI4 cars might need for FSD

It shows Tesla has no intention of releasing any Cybercab units that were initially proposed for ride-hailing services for the general public with any manual controls, meaning a steering wheel or pedals:

“A Cybercab equipped with steering wheel, brake pedal, and an acceleration pedal is typically an engineering or test vehicle, and operates at SAE Level 2 autonomy. Cybercab is not typically equipped with a steering wheel or acceleration and brake pedals.”

This is a major development for those who continue to believe Tesla planned to release the Cybercab with any sort of manual controls so that passengers could take over if needed. However, when Tesla started manufacturing production versions of the Cybercab in Giga Texas earlier this year, they were spotted without a steering wheel or pedals.

It essentially confirms the company has no intentions of bringing manual controls to the car’s production versions. Some have argued that the likelihood of Tesla having something

There still are some Cybercab units out there with a steering wheel and pedals, and as Tesla said, these cars are engineering or test vehicles, which have Safety Monitors on board to help the car out of a precarious situation or emergency.

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Tesla Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ Release Notes: new capabilities and features

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Tesla released the Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ suite to owners of Hardware 3 or AI3 vehicles today, adding several new features to the vehicles that were once believed to be capable of unsupervised self-driving.

Now, Tesla has released this modified suite to older Tesla vehicles, adding plenty of new features and capabilities.

Here are the full release notes for the suite:

  • Distilled the intelligence from HW4 V14 into HW3. This allows HW3 to directly learn how to handle scenarios using HW4 V14 as a guide. This process unlocks the improvements that have been made to HW4 including Reinforcement Learning (RL) and offline models for HW3.
  • Improved both proactive and reactive responsiveness across a wide variety of categories including navigation handling, merges and forks, pedestrian interactions, traffic lights, and vehicle cut-in scenarios.
  • Improved general comfort in nominal scenarios through fewer false slowdowns, smoother steering and more consistent lane centering.
  • Introduced parking, unparking, and reversing capabilities.
  • Added Arrival Options for you to select where FSD should park: in a Parking Lot, on the Street, in a Driveway, or at the Curbside.
  • Speed Profiles are now available at all times, to further customize driving style preference.

These improvements, according to Tesla’s Head of AI, Ashok Elluswamy, help distill the driving behavior from AI4’s v14 series into both the camera and compute configurations of AI3.

Tesla Full Self-Driving v14 ‘Lite’ for older cars finally gets released

He added:

“It includes destination options and speed profiles on city roads, but more importantly significantly improved safety. We hope you’ll enjoy it, once the build ships wide.”

Tesla will continue to roll out the v14 Lite suite more widely in the coming weeks, the company said.

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