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LIVE BLOG: Tesla (TSLA) Q3 2024 earnings call

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Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) Q3 2024 earnings call comes on the heels of the company’s Q3 2024 Update Letter, which was released after the closing bell on Wednesday, October 23, 2024. 

Tesla posted total revenues of $25.18 billion, with automotive revenues of $20.02 billion in Q3 2024. The company also posted non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.72 and GAAP EPS of $0.62. Tesla posted $2.7 billion GAAP operating income in the third quarter, and a record $33.6 billion in cash.

The following are live updates from Tesla’s Q3 2024 earnings call. I will be updating this article in real time, so please keep refreshing the page to view the latest updates on this story. The first entry starts at the bottom of the page. 

17:38 CDT – And that’s a wrap for Tesla’s Q3 2024 earnings call! Thank you so much for tuning in. We’ll see you on the next event!

17:35 CDT – Adam Jonas from Morgan Stanley asks about the relationship between Tesla and xAI. Are the two companies working together, or are they competing? Elon Musk notes that xAI has been helpful to Tesla AI quite a number of times. Musk also highlighted that xAI is trying to make artificial general intelligence or superintelligence. Tesla is trying to make autonomous cars.

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“Tesla is focused on real-world AI. It’s quite different from an LLM,” Musk said.

17:27 CDT – Elon Musk admitted that there is a chance HW3 vehicles would not achieve the necessary safety level for unsupervised FSD. If this were to be the case, Musk noted that Tesla would replace Hardware 3 with Hardware 4 free of charge, at least for those who purchased FSD.

“There is some chance that HW3 does not achieve a safety level that allows for unsupervised FSD. If that turns out to be the case, we will upgrade those two have bought HW3 FSD for free,” Musk said.

17:24 CDT – A question about the Roadster is asked. Musk admitted that the Roadster’s reservation holders have been suffering for a while. He adds that the Roadster is the cherry on top of the icing on the cake. He did, however, state that the Roadster would have to be behind some of the company’s more prudent products.

17:18 CDT – All of the Tesla Semi that have been deployed, around 200 so far, are equipped with the necessary equipment for FSD. Musk noted that FSD would be a huge step for safety for trucks. 

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Another question is asked about Unsupervised FSD’s deployment in CA next year. Elon Musk noted that California loves regulations, but he would be shocked if Tesla does not get approved next year. Companies like Waymo are able to deploy driverless cars in the state, after all. 

Musk quipped that there should be a federal approval process for autonomous vehicles. “I think we should have this national approval process for autonomy,” Musk said.

17:13 CDT – Another question is asked about the Tesla Semi. Tesla executives noted that the facility is on track to start initial builds next year, with production ramping full blast in 2026. Musk noted that there is “ridiculous demand” for the Semi considering the vehicle’s extremely low cost per mile. 

Tesla executives noted that the Semi’s potential is already being proven by clients like PepsiCo. PepsiCo’s drivers do not want to drive any other truck once they try out the Semi. 

17:09 CDT – Musk highlighted that the Cybercab is technically a $25,000 car, but it is an autonomous car, not manually driven. 

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Another question is asked about alleviating wait times at service centers. Company executives highlighted that Tesla is still focused on making vehicles that require as little service as possible. 

Tesla, however, is coming up with a system that is inspired by a factory, where there are different lanes that are dedicated to different types of repairs. Automation is also a huge priority.

17:05 CDT – Elon Musk highlighted that the Cybercab does not just feature revolutionary design. It also features revolutionary manufacturing. “It is just really something special,” Musk said. 

17:03 CDT – Investor questions begin! First question is about the more affordable car. Tesla executives reiterated that plans are underway to produce more affordable cars in the first half of next year. This, however, likely involves lowering the cost of current vehicles. 

As for the $25,000 non-Robotaxi car, executives highlighted that Tesla is all in on autonomy. So there are no plans to produce a non-autonomous version of the Cybercab.

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17:00 CDT – The CFO highlighted Tesla Energy’s margins, which passed 30% in Q3. This was due to a mix of projects during the quarter. He also noted that Tesla Energy is already filling in its 2024 production slots. 

Tesla’s operating expenses declined quarter over quarter and year over year, partly due to the company’s restructuring, which happened in Q2. 

16:58 CDT – Tesla’s CFO takes the stage. He noted that Tesla’s automotive revenues grew quarter over quarter and year over year. Tesla’s sales grew despite ASPs dropping.

He notes that Tesla is determined to grow unit volume while avoiding a buildup of inventory. To support this strategy, Tesla is rolling out compelling financing options that make its vehicles more attainable to consumers. 

Automotive margins improved quarter over quarter as well. The executive also highlighted that Tesla is focused on the cost per vehicle, and there are numerous work streams within the company to squeeze that cost without compromising on customer experience.

16:53 CDT – Elon Musk noted that progress is being made in the Optimus program. He mentioned Optimus’ next-generation hand, which features 22 degrees of freedom.

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“I feel confident saying that we have the most advanced humanoid robot by a long shot,” Musk said, adding that rival robots are missing the AI brain, if not the ability to produce the robots at very high volumes. Tesla has both, so the company’s potential to lead the sector is notable.

““I think Optimus will be the most valuable part of Tesla,” Musk said.

Musk also discussed Tesla Energy, particularly its Megafactories. He noted that Lathrop is ramped, and Shanghai is progressing well. “It won’t be long before we’re sipping 100 GWh a year of stationary storage at Tesla,” Musk said. Musk noted that Tesla needs its energy business to scale so the company can move the needle in the energy sector.

16:48 CDT – Elon Musk reiterated Tesla’s target of rolling out a ride-hailing service next year in California and Texas next year depending on regulatory approval.

He also noted that Tesla is no longer training compute-constrained. “The FSD is actually getting so good that it takes us a while to find mistakes. It takes a lot to figure out if Software A is better than Software B, since neither one of them are making mistakes,” Musk said.

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16:46 CDT – Musk noted that Tesla’s internal estimate is that FSD would be safer than a human driver by Q2 next year. 

“There’s no need to wait for the Robotaxi or the Cybercab to experience full autonomy. We expect to achieve that next year, with our existing vehicle line,” Musk said. He also noted that Tesla employees in the Bay Area now have an autonomous ride-hailing service. The service still uses safety drivers, though.

16:41 CDT – This does not mean to say that Tesla will not be relying on battery suppliers, of course. The growth of Tesla Energy and the company’s other businesses requires a lot of suppliers. 

Musk also discussed the progress of FSD, such as the release of V12.5 and the Cybertruck’s FSD, as well as Actual Smart Summon (A.S.S.). He notes that FSD V13 is expected to be rolled out soon. V13 is expected to see 5-6x improvement in miles between interventions. 

16:38 CDT – Musk noted that Tesla is still on track to deliver more affordable vehicles starting in the first half of 2025. “I do want to give some rough estimate, which is, I think, 20-30% growth next year,” Musk said. He also noted that he is “confident of Cybercab reaching volume production in 2026.” Tesla is estimating a production of 2 million Cybercabs per year. 

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Musk stated that the 4680 lines are doing well. Tesla’s 4680 is rapidly approaching the point where it os the most competitive cell in the market. “I think if we execute well, Tesla’s internally produced cell will be the most cost-competitive cell in North America,” Musk said.

16:35 CDT – Elon Musk makes his opening remarks. He gives a quick recap of Q3. He notes that Tesla achieved record deliveries at a time when the entire industry is challenged. “It’s notable that Tesla is profitable despite a very challenging automotive environment,” Musk said, highlighting that this quarter is a record Q3 for the company. 

He notes that Tesla produced its 7 millionth car yesterday. He congratulates the Tesla team for pulling the feat off. Musk also stated that Tesla Energy is doing well. He also states that the “Tesla team did a phenomenal job” during the “We, Robot” event. 

16:32 CDT – Tesla’s Head of Investor Relations opens the Q3 earnings call. Elon Musk and a number of executives are present.

Let’s go!

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16:29 CDT – One minute to go! Let’s see if this call starts on time.

16:28 CDT – Tesla bull Gary Black of The Future Fund summarized the Q3 earnings results pretty well. It’s a beat.

16:25 CDT – It’s five minutes before the earnings call and there’s still no music. Oh, boy, I hope they start this one on time. No reason to be late anyway, since the Q3 results were extremely impressive. TSLA stock after hours is up 9.44% as of writing.

Aaand there’s Tesla’s techno music. We’re close, everyone.

16:15 CDT – Hello, everyone, and welcome to our live blog of Tesla’s third quarter 2024 earnings call. Tesla’s Q3 results are the best we’ve seen in a long time, so this upcoming earnings call will probably be pretty memorable. Especially impressive was the fact that the Cybertruck reached positive gross margin in the third quarter. That’s pretty nuts!

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Here’s the livestream of Tesla’s Q3 2024 earnings call.

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Tesla gets $475 price target from Benchmark amid initial Robotaxi rollout

Tesla’s limited rollout of its Robotaxi service in Austin is already catching the eye of Wall Street.

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Venture capital firm Benchmark recently reiterated its “Buy” rating and raised its price target on Tesla stock (NASDAQ: TSLA) from $350 to $475 per share, citing the company’s initial Robotaxi service deployment as a sign of future growth potential.

Benchmark analyst Mickey Legg praised the Robotaxi service pilot’s “controlled and safety-first approach,” adding that it could help Tesla earn the trust of regulators and the general public.

Confidence in camera-based autonomy

Legg reiterated Benchmark’s belief in Tesla’s vision-only approach to autonomous driving. “We are a believer in Tesla’s camera-focused approach that is not only cost effective but also scalable,” he noted. 

The analyst contrasted Tesla’s simple setup with the more expensive hardware stacks used by competitors like Waymo, which use various sophisticated sensors that hike up costs, as noted in an Investing.com report. Compared to Tesla’s Model Y Robotaxis, Waymo’s self-driving cars are significantly more expensive.

He also pointed to upcoming Texas regulations set to take effect in September, suggesting they could help create a regulatory framework favorable to autonomous services in other cities.

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“New regulations for autonomous vehicles are set to go into place on Sept. 1 in TX that we believe will further help win trust and pave the way for expansion to additional cities,” the analyst wrote.

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Tesla as a robotics powerhouse

Beyond robotaxis, Legg sees Tesla evolving beyond its roots as an electric vehicle maker. He noted that Tesla’s humanoid robot, Optimus, could be a long-term growth driver alongside new vehicle programs and other future initiatives.

“In our view, the company is undergoing an evolution from a trailblazing vehicle OEM to a high-tech automation and robotics company with unmatched domestic manufacturing scale,” he wrote.

Benchmark noted that Tesla stock had rebounded over 50% from its April lows, driven in part by easing tariff concerns and growing momentum around autonomy. With its initial Robotaxi rollout now underway, the firm has returned to its previous $475 per share target and reaffirmed TSLA as a Benchmark Top Pick for 2025.

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Tesla blacklisted by Swedish pension fund AP7 as it sells entire stake

A Swedish pension fund is offloading its Tesla holdings for good.

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Tesla shares have been blacklisted by the Swedish pension fund AP7, who said earlier today that it has “verified violations of labor rights in the United States” by the automaker.

The fund ended up selling its entire stake, which was worth around $1.36 billion when it liquidated its holdings in late May. Reuters first reported on AP7’s move.

Other pension and retirement funds have relinquished some of their Tesla holdings due to CEO Elon Musk’s involvement in politics, among other reasons, and although the company’s stock has been a great contributor to growth for many funds over the past decade, these managers are not willing to see past the CEO’s right to free speech.

However, AP7 says the move is related not to Musk’s involvement in government nor his political stances. Instead, the fund said it verified several labor rights violations in the U.S.:

“AP7 has decided to blacklist Tesla due to verified violations of labor rights in the United States. Despite several years of dialogue with Tesla, including shareholder proposals in collaboration with other investors, the company has not taken sufficient measures to address the issues.”

Tesla made up about 1 percent of the AP7 Equity Fund, according to a spokesperson. This equated to roughly 13 billion crowns, but the fund’s total assets were about 1,181 billion crowns at the end of May when the Tesla stake was sold off.

Tesla has had its share of labor lawsuits over the past few years, just as any large company deals with at some point or another. There have been claims of restrictions against labor union supporters, including one that Tesla was favored by judges, as they did not want pro-union clothing in the factory. Tesla argued that loose-fitting clothing presented a safety hazard, and the courts agreed.

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There have also been claims of racism at the Fremont Factory by a former elevator contractor named Owen Diaz. He was awarded a substantial sum of $137m. However, U.S. District Judge William Orrick ruled the $137 million award was excessive, reducing it to $15 million. Diaz rejected this sum.

Another jury awarded Diaz $3.2 million. Diaz’s legal team said this payout was inadequate. He and Tesla ultimately settled for an undisclosed amount.

AP7 did not list any of the current labor violations that it cited as its reason for

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xAI targets $5 billion debt offering to fuel company goals

Elon Musk’s xAI is targeting a $5B debt raise, led by Morgan Stanley, to scale its artificial intelligence efforts.

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xAI’s $5 billion debt offering, marketed by Morgan Stanley, underscores Elon Musk’s ambitious plans to expand the artificial intelligence venture. The xAI package comprises bonds and two loans, highlighting the company’s strategic push to fuel its artificial intelligence development.

Last week, Morgan Stanley began pitching a floating-rate term loan B at 97 cents on the dollar with a variable interest rate of 700 basis points over the SOFR benchmark, one source said. A second option offers a fixed-rate loan and bonds at 12%, with terms contingent on investor appetite. This “best efforts” transaction, where the debt size hinges on demand, reflects cautious lending in an uncertain economic climate.

According to Reuters sources, Morgan Stanley will not guarantee the issue volume or commit its own capital in the xAI deal, marking a shift from past commitments. The change in approach stems from lessons learned during Musk’s 2022 X acquisition when Morgan Stanley and six other banks held $13 billion in debt for over two years.

Morgan Stanley and the six other banks backing Musk’s X acquisition could only dispose of that debt earlier this year. They capitalized on X’s improved operating performance over the previous two quarters as traffic on the platform increased engagement around the U.S. presidential elections. This time, Morgan Stanley’s prudent strategy mitigates similar risks.

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Beyond debt, xAI is in talks to raise $20 billion in equity, potentially valuing the company between $120 billion and $200 billion, sources said. In April, Musk hinted at a significant valuation adjustment for xAI, stating he was looking to put a “proper value” on xAI during an investor call.

As xAI pursues this $5 billion debt offering, its financial strategy positions it to lead the AI revolution, blending innovation with market opportunity.

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