Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) Q3 2024 earnings call comes on the heels of the company’s Q3 2024 Update Letter, which was released after the closing bell on Wednesday, October 23, 2024.
Tesla posted total revenues of $25.18 billion, with automotive revenues of $20.02 billion in Q3 2024. The company also posted non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.72 and GAAP EPS of $0.62. Tesla posted $2.7 billion GAAP operating income in the third quarter, and a record $33.6 billion in cash.
The following are live updates from Tesla’s Q3 2024 earnings call. I will be updating this article in real time, so please keep refreshing the page to view the latest updates on this story. The first entry starts at the bottom of the page.
Q3 2024 Earnings Call live at 4:30pm CT https://t.co/FLyk30QBLk— Tesla (@Tesla) October 23, 2024
17:38 CDT – And that’s a wrap for Tesla’s Q3 2024 earnings call! Thank you so much for tuning in. We’ll see you on the next event!
17:35 CDT – Adam Jonas from Morgan Stanley asks about the relationship between Tesla and xAI. Are the two companies working together, or are they competing? Elon Musk notes that xAI has been helpful to Tesla AI quite a number of times. Musk also highlighted that xAI is trying to make artificial general intelligence or superintelligence. Tesla is trying to make autonomous cars.
“Tesla is focused on real-world AI. It’s quite different from an LLM,” Musk said.
17:27 CDT – Elon Musk admitted that there is a chance HW3 vehicles would not achieve the necessary safety level for unsupervised FSD. If this were to be the case, Musk noted that Tesla would replace Hardware 3 with Hardware 4 free of charge, at least for those who purchased FSD.
“There is some chance that HW3 does not achieve a safety level that allows for unsupervised FSD. If that turns out to be the case, we will upgrade those two have bought HW3 FSD for free,” Musk said.
17:24 CDT – A question about the Roadster is asked. Musk admitted that the Roadster’s reservation holders have been suffering for a while. He adds that the Roadster is the cherry on top of the icing on the cake. He did, however, state that the Roadster would have to be behind some of the company’s more prudent products.
17:18 CDT – All of the Tesla Semi that have been deployed, around 200 so far, are equipped with the necessary equipment for FSD. Musk noted that FSD would be a huge step for safety for trucks.
Another question is asked about Unsupervised FSD’s deployment in CA next year. Elon Musk noted that California loves regulations, but he would be shocked if Tesla does not get approved next year. Companies like Waymo are able to deploy driverless cars in the state, after all.
Musk quipped that there should be a federal approval process for autonomous vehicles. “I think we should have this national approval process for autonomy,” Musk said.
17:13 CDT – Another question is asked about the Tesla Semi. Tesla executives noted that the facility is on track to start initial builds next year, with production ramping full blast in 2026. Musk noted that there is “ridiculous demand” for the Semi considering the vehicle’s extremely low cost per mile.
Tesla executives noted that the Semi’s potential is already being proven by clients like PepsiCo. PepsiCo’s drivers do not want to drive any other truck once they try out the Semi.
17:09 CDT – Musk highlighted that the Cybercab is technically a $25,000 car, but it is an autonomous car, not manually driven.
Another question is asked about alleviating wait times at service centers. Company executives highlighted that Tesla is still focused on making vehicles that require as little service as possible.
Tesla, however, is coming up with a system that is inspired by a factory, where there are different lanes that are dedicated to different types of repairs. Automation is also a huge priority.
17:05 CDT – Elon Musk highlighted that the Cybercab does not just feature revolutionary design. It also features revolutionary manufacturing. “It is just really something special,” Musk said.
17:03 CDT – Investor questions begin! First question is about the more affordable car. Tesla executives reiterated that plans are underway to produce more affordable cars in the first half of next year. This, however, likely involves lowering the cost of current vehicles.
As for the $25,000 non-Robotaxi car, executives highlighted that Tesla is all in on autonomy. So there are no plans to produce a non-autonomous version of the Cybercab.
17:00 CDT – The CFO highlighted Tesla Energy’s margins, which passed 30% in Q3. This was due to a mix of projects during the quarter. He also noted that Tesla Energy is already filling in its 2024 production slots.
Tesla’s operating expenses declined quarter over quarter and year over year, partly due to the company’s restructuring, which happened in Q2.
16:58 CDT – Tesla’s CFO takes the stage. He noted that Tesla’s automotive revenues grew quarter over quarter and year over year. Tesla’s sales grew despite ASPs dropping.
He notes that Tesla is determined to grow unit volume while avoiding a buildup of inventory. To support this strategy, Tesla is rolling out compelling financing options that make its vehicles more attainable to consumers.
Automotive margins improved quarter over quarter as well. The executive also highlighted that Tesla is focused on the cost per vehicle, and there are numerous work streams within the company to squeeze that cost without compromising on customer experience.
16:53 CDT – Elon Musk noted that progress is being made in the Optimus program. He mentioned Optimus’ next-generation hand, which features 22 degrees of freedom.
“I feel confident saying that we have the most advanced humanoid robot by a long shot,” Musk said, adding that rival robots are missing the AI brain, if not the ability to produce the robots at very high volumes. Tesla has both, so the company’s potential to lead the sector is notable.
““I think Optimus will be the most valuable part of Tesla,” Musk said.
Musk also discussed Tesla Energy, particularly its Megafactories. He noted that Lathrop is ramped, and Shanghai is progressing well. “It won’t be long before we’re sipping 100 GWh a year of stationary storage at Tesla,” Musk said. Musk noted that Tesla needs its energy business to scale so the company can move the needle in the energy sector.
16:48 CDT – Elon Musk reiterated Tesla’s target of rolling out a ride-hailing service next year in California and Texas next year depending on regulatory approval.
He also noted that Tesla is no longer training compute-constrained. “The FSD is actually getting so good that it takes us a while to find mistakes. It takes a lot to figure out if Software A is better than Software B, since neither one of them are making mistakes,” Musk said.
16:46 CDT – Musk noted that Tesla’s internal estimate is that FSD would be safer than a human driver by Q2 next year.
“There’s no need to wait for the Robotaxi or the Cybercab to experience full autonomy. We expect to achieve that next year, with our existing vehicle line,” Musk said. He also noted that Tesla employees in the Bay Area now have an autonomous ride-hailing service. The service still uses safety drivers, though.
16:41 CDT – This does not mean to say that Tesla will not be relying on battery suppliers, of course. The growth of Tesla Energy and the company’s other businesses requires a lot of suppliers.
Musk also discussed the progress of FSD, such as the release of V12.5 and the Cybertruck’s FSD, as well as Actual Smart Summon (A.S.S.). He notes that FSD V13 is expected to be rolled out soon. V13 is expected to see 5-6x improvement in miles between interventions.
16:38 CDT – Musk noted that Tesla is still on track to deliver more affordable vehicles starting in the first half of 2025. “I do want to give some rough estimate, which is, I think, 20-30% growth next year,” Musk said. He also noted that he is “confident of Cybercab reaching volume production in 2026.” Tesla is estimating a production of 2 million Cybercabs per year.
Musk stated that the 4680 lines are doing well. Tesla’s 4680 is rapidly approaching the point where it os the most competitive cell in the market. “I think if we execute well, Tesla’s internally produced cell will be the most cost-competitive cell in North America,” Musk said.
16:35 CDT – Elon Musk makes his opening remarks. He gives a quick recap of Q3. He notes that Tesla achieved record deliveries at a time when the entire industry is challenged. “It’s notable that Tesla is profitable despite a very challenging automotive environment,” Musk said, highlighting that this quarter is a record Q3 for the company.
He notes that Tesla produced its 7 millionth car yesterday. He congratulates the Tesla team for pulling the feat off. Musk also stated that Tesla Energy is doing well. He also states that the “Tesla team did a phenomenal job” during the “We, Robot” event.
16:32 CDT – Tesla’s Head of Investor Relations opens the Q3 earnings call. Elon Musk and a number of executives are present.
Let’s go!
16:29 CDT – One minute to go! Let’s see if this call starts on time.
16:28 CDT – Tesla bull Gary Black of The Future Fund summarized the Q3 earnings results pretty well. It’s a beat.
$TSLA beat solidly on 3Q adj eps ($.72 vs $.60 est and vs my $.56 est). TSLA +9.4% AH. Driving the beat:
– Auto GM ex-reg credits was 17.1% vs 14.9% WS est.
– Energy profits soared +90% (energy GM 30.5% vs 24.4% YoY)
– Service profits soared +91% (services GM 8.8% vs 6.0% YoY)…— Gary Black (@garyblack00) October 23, 2024
16:25 CDT – It’s five minutes before the earnings call and there’s still no music. Oh, boy, I hope they start this one on time. No reason to be late anyway, since the Q3 results were extremely impressive. TSLA stock after hours is up 9.44% as of writing.
Aaand there’s Tesla’s techno music. We’re close, everyone.
16:15 CDT – Hello, everyone, and welcome to our live blog of Tesla’s third quarter 2024 earnings call. Tesla’s Q3 results are the best we’ve seen in a long time, so this upcoming earnings call will probably be pretty memorable. Especially impressive was the fact that the Cybertruck reached positive gross margin in the third quarter. That’s pretty nuts!
Here’s the livestream of Tesla’s Q3 2024 earnings call.
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Tesla received a price target boost from Morgan Stanley, according to a new note on Monday morning, but there is some considerable caution also being communicated over the next year or so.
Morgan Stanley analyst Andrew Percoco took over Tesla coverage for the firm from longtime bull Adam Jonas, who appears to be focusing on embodied AI stocks and no longer automotive.
Percoco took over and immediately adjusted the price target for Tesla from $410 to $425, and changed its rating on shares from ‘Overweight’ to ‘Equal Weight.’
Percoco said he believes Tesla is the leading company in terms of electric vehicles, manufacturing, renewable energy, and real-world AI, so it deserves a premium valuation. However, he admits the high expectations for the company could provide for a “choppy trading environment” for the next year.
He wrote:
“However, high expectations on the latter have brought the stock closer to fair valuation. While it is well understood that Tesla is more than an auto manufacturer, we expect a choppy trading environment for the TSLA shares over the next 12 months, as we see downside to estimates, while the catalysts for its non-auto businesses appear priced at current levels.”
Percoco also added that if market cap hurdles are achieved, Morgan Stanley would reduce its price target by 7 percent.
Perhaps the biggest change with Percoco taking over the analysis for Jonas is how he will determine the value of each individual project. For example, he believes Optimus is worth about $60 per share of equity value.
He went on to describe the potential value of Full Self-Driving, highlighting its importance to the Tesla valuation:
“Full Self Driving (FSD) is the crown jewel of Tesla’s auto business; we believe that its leading-edge personal autonomous driving offering is a real game changer, and will remain a significant competitive advantage over its EV and non-EV peers. As Tesla continues to improve its platform with increased levels of autonomy (i.e., hands-off, eyes-off), it will revolutionize the personal driving experience. It remains to be seen if others will be able to keep pace.”
Additionally, Percoco outlined both bear and bull cases for the stock. He believes $860 per share, “which could be in play in the next 12 months if Tesla manages through the EV-downturn,” while also scaling Robotaxi, executing on unsupervised FSD, and scaling Optimus, is in play for the bull case.
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Meanwhile, the bear case is placed at $145 per share, and “assumes greater competition and margin pressure across all business lines, embedding zero value for humanoids, slowing the growth curve for Tesla’s robotaxi fleet to reflect regulatory challenges in scaling a vision-only perception stack, and lowering market share and margin profile for the autos and energy businesses.”
Currently, Tesla shares are trading at around $441.
Tesla bear Michael Burry got blunt with his beliefs over the company’s valuation, which he called “ridiculously overvalued” in a newsletter to subscribers this past weekend.
“Tesla’s market capitalization is ridiculously overvalued today and has been for a good long time,” Burry, who was the inspiration for the movie The Big Short, and was portrayed by Christian Bale.
Burry went on to say, “As an aside, the Elon cult was all-in on electric cars until competition showed up, then all-in on autonomous driving until competition showed up, and now is all-in on robots — until competition shows up.”
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For a long time, Burry has been skeptical of Tesla, its stock, and its CEO, Elon Musk, even placing a $530 million bet against shares several years ago. Eventually, Burry’s short position extended to other supporters of the company, including ARK Invest.
Tesla has long drawn skepticism from investors and more traditional analysts, who believe its valuation is overblown. However, the company is not traded as a traditional stock, something that other Wall Street firms have recognized.
While many believe the company has some serious pull as an automaker, an identity that helped it reach the valuation it has, Tesla has more than transformed into a robotics, AI, and self-driving play, pulling itself into the realm of some of the most recognizable stocks in tech.
Burry’s Scion Asset Management has put its money where its mouth is against Tesla stock on several occasions, but the firm has not yielded positive results, as shares have increased in value since 2020 by over 115 percent. The firm closed in May.
In 2020, it launched its short position, but by October 2021, it had ditched that position.
Tesla has had a tumultuous year on Wall Street, dipping significantly to around the $220 mark at one point. However, it rebounded significantly in September, climbing back up to the $400 region, as it currently trades at around $430.
It closed at $430.14 on Monday.
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Mizuho keeps Tesla (TSLA) “Outperform” rating but lowers price target
As per the Mizuho analyst, upcoming changes to EV incentives in the U.S. and China could affect Tesla’s unit growth more than previously expected.
Mizuho analyst Vijay Rakesh lowered Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) price target to $475 from $485, citing potential 2026 EV subsidy cuts in the U.S. and China that could pressure deliveries. The firm maintained its Outperform rating for the electric vehicle maker, however.
As per the Mizuho analyst, upcoming changes to EV incentives in the U.S. and China could affect Tesla’s unit growth more than previously expected. The U.S. accounted for roughly 37% of Tesla’s third-quarter 2025 sales, while China represented about 34%, making both markets highly sensitive to policy shifts. Potential 50% cuts to Chinese subsidies and reduced U.S. incentives affected the firm’s outlook.
With those pressures factored in, the firm now expects Tesla to deliver 1.75 million vehicles in 2026 and 2 million in 2027, slightly below consensus estimates of 1.82 million and 2.15 million, respectively. The analyst was cautiously optimistic, as near-term pressure from subsidies is there, but the company’s long-term tech roadmap remains very compelling.
Despite the revised target, Mizuho remained optimistic on Tesla’s long-term technology roadmap. The firm highlighted three major growth drivers into 2027: the broader adoption of Full Self-Driving V14, the expansion of Tesla’s Robotaxi service, and the commercialization of Optimus, the company’s humanoid robot.
“We are lowering TSLA Ests/PT to $475 with Potential BEV headwinds in 2026E. We believe into 2026E, US (~37% of TSLA 3Q25 sales) EV subsidy cuts and China (34% of TSLA 3Q25 sales) potential 50% EV subsidy cuts could be a headwind to EV deliveries.
“We are now estimating TSLA deliveries for 2026/27E at 1.75M/2.00M (slightly below cons. 1.82M/2.15M). We see some LT drivers with FSD v14 adoption for autonomous, robotaxi launches, and humanoid robots into 2027 driving strength,” the analyst noted.
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