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The Boring Company’s LVCC Loop can move over 8,000 people every hour, simulation shows

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The Boring Company’s Las Vegas Convention Center Loop tunnels may be capable of moving over 8,000 passengers per hour, and that may not even be the system’s full capacity. These findings were related in a recent simulation that was shared online, which depicted three operating scenarios for the upcoming high-speed tunnels. 

Using PTV Vissim software, a professional traffic simulation program, tunneling enthusiast Phil Harrison modeled how the LVCC Loop would work as a public transport service. The simulation utilized plans from The Boring Company’s official submissions to Clark County to depict the layout of the high-speed tunnels and stations as accurately as possible. 

Harrison took a fairly conservative approach, with the simulation capping the number of passengers allowed in each station at just 100 people. This is quite conservative and will likely be exceeded by real-world conditions in the actual LVCC Loop. The tunneling enthusiast described the simulation’s concept and design in his YouTube video’s description. 

“At each station, half the bays go to the one of the three stations and the other half to the other station. This allows for direct point to point travel. For each scenario, the input frequency of cars is increased and the maximum passengers allowed to collect in the platform area is 100. The biggest bottleneck is the pedestrian crossing at stations 1 and 3 so have added a theoretical signal and escalator,” Harrison wrote. 

To determine the number of people that are moved per hour, the simulation counted the number of pedestrians that successfully exited a station over the space of 60 minutes. Three scenarios were explored in the simulation, and based on the results of each run, it appears that the LVCC Loop holds a lot of potential, showing a capacity to transport a good number of people per hour. 

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In a “base case” scenario, which involves cars with three passengers traveling through the tunnels at 75 mph, moving around the stations at 9 mph, and dwelling in the loading bays for 60 seconds, the simulation achieved a throughput of 2,160 passengers per hour. Each trip averaged 72 seconds from one end of the LVCC Loop to the other. 

A second scenario employed a signaled pedestrian crossing, which allowed cars to navigate stations at 12 mph. Bay dwell time was adjusted to 45 seconds, and four passengers were allowed per vehicle. Under these scenarios, the simulation moved 4,320 passengers per hour, with trips taking an average of 58 seconds. 

A third scenario, fondly dubbed “maximum plaid,” featured a system that used escalators that led directly to the Las Vegas Convention Center. Station speeds were at 25 mph, and bay dwell times were listed at 30 seconds. Speeds of the Model 3s in the Loop system was also raised to 140 mph, and four passengers were allowed per vehicle. Under these circumstances, the simulation achieved an impressive throughput of 8,640 people per hour with average trips taking 42 seconds. 

Watch a simulation of the Las Vegas Convention Center Loop tunnels in action in the video below. 

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Tesla dispels reports of ‘sales suspension’ in California

“This was a “consumer protection” order about the use of the term “Autopilot” in a case where not one single customer came forward to say there’s a problem.

Sales in California will continue uninterrupted.”

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Tesla has dispelled reports that it is facing a thirty-day sales suspension in California after the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) issued a penalty to the company after a judge ruled it “misled consumers about its driver-assistance technology.”

On Tuesday, Bloomberg reported that the California DMV was planning to adopt the penalty but decided to put it on ice for ninety days, giving Tesla an opportunity to “come into compliance.”

Tesla enters interesting situation with Full Self-Driving in California

Tesla responded to the report on Tuesday evening, after it came out, stating that this was a “consumer protection” order that was brought up over its use of the term “Autopilot.”

The company said “not one single customer came forward to say there’s a problem,” yet a judge and the DMV determined it was, so they want to apply the penalty if Tesla doesn’t oblige.

However, Tesla said that its sales operations in California “will continue uninterrupted.”

It confirmed this in an X post on Tuesday night:

The report and the decision by the DMV and Judge involved sparked outrage from the Tesla community, who stated that it should do its best to get out of California.

One X post said California “didn’t deserve” what Tesla had done for it in terms of employment, engineering, and innovation.

Tesla has used Autopilot and Full Self-Driving for years, but it did add the term “(Supervised)” to the end of the FSD suite earlier this year, potentially aiming to protect itself from instances like this one.

This is the first primary dispute over the terminology of Full Self-Driving, but it has undergone some scrutiny at the federal level, as some government officials have claimed the suite has “deceptive” naming. Previous Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg was vocally critical of the use of the name “Full Self-Driving,” as well as “Autopilot.”

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New EV tax credit rule could impact many EV buyers

We confirmed with a Tesla Sales Advisor that any current orders that have the $7,500 tax credit applied to them must be completed by December 31, meaning delivery must take place by that date. However, it is unclear at this point whether someone could still claim the credit when filing their tax returns for 2025 as long as the order reflects an order date before September 30.

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Tesla owners could be impacted by a new EV tax credit rule, which seems to be a new hoop to jump through for those who benefited from the “extension,” which allowed orderers to take delivery after the loss of the $7,500 discount.

After the Trump Administration initiated the phase-out of the $7,500 EV tax credit, many were happy to see the rules had been changed slightly, as deliveries could occur after the September 30 cutoff as long as orders were placed before the end of that month.

However, there appears to be a new threshold that EV buyers will have to go through, and it will impact their ability to get the credit, at least at the Point of Sale, for now.

Delivery must be completed by the end of the year, and buyers must take possession of the car by December 31, 2025, or they will lose the tax credit. The U.S. government will be closing the tax credit portal, which allows people to claim the credit at the Point of Sale.

We confirmed with a Tesla Sales Advisor that any current orders that have the $7,500 tax credit applied to them must be completed by December 31, meaning delivery must take place by that date.

However, it is unclear at this point whether someone could still claim the credit when filing their tax returns for 2025 as long as the order reflects an order date before September 30.

If not, the order can still go through, but the buyer will not be able to claim the tax credit, meaning they will pay full price for the vehicle.

This puts some buyers in a strange limbo, especially if they placed an order for the Model Y Performance. Some deliveries have already taken place, and some are scheduled before the end of the month, but many others are not expecting deliveries until January.

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Elon Musk takes latest barb at Bill Gates over Tesla short position

Bill Gates placed a massive short bet against Tesla of ~1% of our total shares, which might have cost him over $10B by now

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Elon Musk took his latest barb at former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates over his short position against the company, which the two have had some tensions over for a number of years.

Gates admitted to Musk several years ago through a text message that he still held a short position against his sustainable car and energy company. Ironically, Gates had contacted Musk to explore philanthropic opportunities.

Elon Musk explains Bill Gates beef: He ‘placed a massive bet on Tesla dying’

Musk said he could not take the request seriously, especially as Gates was hoping to make money on the downfall of the one company taking EVs seriously.

The Tesla frontman has continued to take shots at Gates over the years from time to time, but the latest comment came as Musk’s net worth swelled to over $600 billion. He became the first person ever to reach that threshold earlier this week, when Tesla shares increased due to Robotaxi testing without any occupants.

Musk refreshed everyone’s memory with the recent post, stating that if Gates still has his short position against Tesla, he would have lost over $10 billion by now:

Just a month ago, in mid-November, Musk issued his final warning to Gates over the short position, speculating whether the former Microsoft frontman had still held the bet against Tesla.

“If Gates hasn’t fully closed out the crazy short position he has held against Tesla for ~8 years, he had better do so soon,” Musk said. This came in response to The Gates Foundation dumping 65 percent of its Microsoft position.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk sends final warning to Bill Gates over short position

Musk’s involvement in the U.S. government also drew criticism from Gates, as he said that the reductions proposed by DOGE against U.S.A.I.D. were “stunning” and could cause “millions of additional deaths of kids.”

“Gates is a huge liar,” Musk responded.

It is not known whether Gates still holds his Tesla short position.

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