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Tesla FSD Beta V9 earns sharp rebuke from Consumer Reports

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Consumer advocate group Consumer Reports (CR) has issued a sharp rebuke of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving Beta V9, which began its initial rollout earlier this month. CR highlighted FSD Beta V9’s capabilities and lack of safeguards as its main point of criticism for the advanced driver-assist system. 

Tesla FSD Beta V9 adopts the company’s pure vision approach, which uses a camera-based Autopilot model. Tesla’s decision to adopt pure vision as opposed to its previous camera+radar approach was quite controversial, though initial reviews from some FSD Beta users have noted that their vehicles have been behaving more confidently with FSD Beta V9. Elon Musk, for his part, has maintained that FSD Beta V9 users must exercise utmost caution when using the system.

Consumer Reports’ Tesla Model Y does not have FSD Beta V9 software, and thus, the company is yet to experience the advanced driver-assist system firsthand, but Jake Fisher, senior director of CR’s Auto Test Center, noted that videos of FSD Beta V9 in action do not inspire confidence. “Videos of FSD Beta 9 in action don’t show a system that makes driving safer or even less stressful. Consumers are simply paying to be test engineers for developing technology without adequate safety protection,” he said

The magazine pointed to videos uploaded by FSD Beta V9 tester AI Addict, whose YouTube uploads showed instances when the advanced driver-assist system made mistakes and required manual interventions. Missy Cummings, an automation expert who is director of the Humans and Autonomy Laboratory at Duke University, noted that FSD Beta V9 still has fundamental problems. 

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“It’s hard to know just by watching these videos what the exact problem is, but just watching the videos it’s clear (that) it’s having an object detection and/or classification problem. I’m not going to rule out that at some point in the future that’s a possible event. But are they there now? No. Are they even close? No,” she said. 

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Selika Josiah Talbott, a professor at the American University School of Public Affairs in Washington, D.C., is more critical of the system, stating that the videos she has seen of FSD Beta V9 show that the advanced driver-assist system behaves “almost like a drunk driver” in the way that it struggles to stay between lane lines. “It’s meandering to the left; it’s meandering to the right. While its right-hand turns appear to be fairly solid, the left-hand turns are almost wild,” she said. 

Despite Tesla’s rollout of a camera-based driver monitoring system to its vehicles, Fisher argued that the EV maker still needs to monitor its drivers in real-time to ensure that FSD Beta V9 is being used properly. “Tesla just asking people to pay attention isn’t enough—the system needs to make sure people are engaged when the system is operational. We already know that testing developing self-driving systems without adequate driver support can—and will—end in fatalities,” he said. 

It should be noted that FSD Beta V9’s current iteration is not in wide release yet, and it has only been rolled out to the company’s select group of FSD Beta testers. So far, however, tests of the system in action seem encouraging. While manual interventions still happen from time to time, FSD Beta V9 does seem like a step forward from its previous iterations. This does not mean that Tesla’s driver-assist system is ready to go hands-free, of course, but it’s a solid step forward. Needless to say, there’s a good chance that improvements would be made to FSD Beta V9 before it gets a wider release. 

Consumer Reports’ full article on Tesla’s FSD Beta V9 could be accessed here

Watch AI Addict’s FSD Beta V9 video below.

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Tesla to increase Full Self-Driving subscription price: here’s when

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Tesla will increase its Full Self-Driving subscription price, meaning it will eventually be more than the current $99 per month price tag it has right now.

Already stating that the ability to purchase the suite outright will be removed, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said earlier this week that the Full Self-Driving subscription price would increase when its capabilities improve:

“I should also mention that the $99/month for supervised FSD will rise as FSD’s capabilities improve. The massive value jump is when you can be on your phone or sleeping for the entire ride (unsupervised FSD).”

This was an expected change, especially as Tesla has been hinting for some time that it is approaching a feature-complete version of Full Self-Driving that will no longer require driver supervision. However, with the increase, some are concerned that they may be priced out.

$99 per month is already a tough ask for some. While Full Self-Driving is definitely worth it just due to the capabilities, not every driver is ready to add potentially 50 percent to their car payment each month to have it.

While Tesla has not revealed any target price for FSD, it does seem that it will go up to at least $150.

Additionally, the ability to purchase the suite outright is also being eliminated on February 14, which gives owners another reason to be slightly concerned about whether they will be able to afford to continue paying for Full Self-Driving in any capacity.

Some owners have requested a tiered program, which would allow people to pay for the capabilities they want at a discounted price.

Unsupervised FSD would be the most expensive, and although the company started removing Autopilot from some vehicles, it seems a Supervised FSD suite would still attract people to pay between $49 and $99 per month, as it is very useful.

Tesla will likely release pricing for the Unsupervised suite when it is available, but price increases could still come to the Supervised version as things improve.

This is not the first time Musk has hinted that the price would change with capability improvements, either. He’s been saying it for some time. In 2020, he even said the value of FSD would “probably be somewhere in excess of $100,000.”

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Tesla starts removing outright Full Self-Driving purchase option at time of order

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Tesla has chosen to axe the ability to purchase Full Self-Driving outright from a select group of cars just days after CEO Elon Musk announced the company had plans to eliminate that option in February.

The company is making a clear-cut stand that it will fully transition away from the ability to purchase the Full Self-Driving suite outright, a move that has brought differing opinions throughout the Tesla community.

Earlier this week, the company also announced that it will no longer allow buyers to purchase Full Self-Driving outright when ordering a pre-owned vehicle from inventory. Instead, that will be available for $99 per month, the same price that it costs for everyone else.

The ability to buy the suite for $8,000 for a one-time fee at the time of order has been removed:

This is a major move because it is the first time Tesla is eliminating the ability to purchase FSD outright for one flat fee to any of its vehicles, at least at the time of purchase.

It is trying to phase out the outright purchase option as much as it can, preparing people for the subscription-based service it will exclusively offer starting on February 14.

In less than a month, it won’t be available on any vehicle, which has truly driven some serious conversation from Tesla owners throughout the community.

There’s a conflict, because many believe that they will now lose the ability to buy FSD and not pay for it monthly, which is an attractive offer. However, others believe, despite paying $8,000 for FSD, that they will have to pay more money on top of that cost to get the unsupervised suite.

Additionally, CEO Elon Musk said that the FSD suite’s subscription price would increase over time as capabilities increase, which is understandable, but is also quite a conflict for those who spent thousands to have what was once promised to them, and now they may have to pay even more money.

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Tesla Robotaxi has a highly-requested hardware feature not available on typical Model Ys

These camera washers are crucial for keeping the operation going, as they are the sole way Teslas operate autonomously. The cameras act as eyes for the car to drive, recognize speed limit and traffic signs, and travel safely.

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Tesla Robotaxi has a highly-requested hardware feature that is not available on typical Model Ys that people like you and me bring home after we buy them. The feature is something that many have been wanting for years, especially after the company adopted a vision-only approach to self-driving.

After Tesla launched driverless Robotaxi rides to the public earlier this week in Austin, people have been traveling to the Lone Star State in an effort to hopefully snag a ride from one of the few vehicles in the fleet that are now no longer required to have Safety Monitors present.

BREAKING: Tesla launches public Robotaxi rides in Austin with no Safety Monitor

Although only a few of those completely driverless rides are available, there have been some new things seen on these cars that are additions from regular Model Ys, including the presence of one new feature: camera washers.

With the Model Y, there has been a front camera washer, but the other exterior “eyes” have been void of any solution for this. For now, owners are required to clean them manually.

In Austin, Tesla is doing things differently. It is now utilizing camera washers on the side repeater and rear bumper cameras, which will keep the cameras clean and keep operation as smooth and as uninterrupted as possible:

These camera washers are crucial for keeping the operation going, as they are the sole way Teslas operate autonomously. The cameras act as eyes for the car to drive, recognize speed limit and traffic signs, and travel safely.

This is the first time we are seeing them, so it seems as if Safety Monitors might have been responsible for keeping the lenses clean and unobstructed previously.

However, as Tesla transitions to a fully autonomous self-driving suite and Robotaxi expands to more vehicles in the Robotaxi fleet, it needed to find a way to clean the cameras without any manual intervention, at least for a short period, until they can return for interior and exterior washing.

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