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Tesla FSD V13 to implement features required for unsupervised driving: exec
Tesla Vice President of AI Software Ashok Elluswamy recently shared some key insights about the upcoming release of Full Self-Driving (FSD) V13. As per the executive, the Tesla AI team is looking to implement all the features required for the rollout of unsupervised FSD with the V13 series.
A recent post on Tesla AI’s official account on X has revealed that the electric vehicle maker is looking to release FSD V13.0 to internal customers by the end of the week. While this suggests that FSD V13’s initial rollout will be delayed by a few days, the Tesla AI team’s post does suggest that the upcoming update would be substantial.
As October comes to a close, here's an update on the releases
What we completed:
– End-to-end on highway has shipped to ~50k customers with v12.5.6.1
– Cybertruck build that improves responsiveness
– Successful We, Robot event with 50 autonomous Teslas safely transporting over… https://t.co/2xKiAjrk5R— Tesla AI (@Tesla_AI) October 31, 2024
Among the major technology upgrades in V13 are 36 Hz, full-resolution AI4 video inputs, native AI4 inputs and neural network architectures, 3x model size scaling, 3x model context length scaling, 4.2x data scaling, and 5x training compute scaling, which is enabled by Tesla’s Cortex training supercluster at Gigafactory Texas. The Tesla AI team also noted that it was targeting a wide release with FSD V13.3 for AI4 vehicles around Thanksgiving.
In a later post on X, Elluswamy noted that the Tesla AI team has a lot of work on its plate as FSD V13 is prepared for release. He also noted that the Tesla AI team is looking to roll out all the necessary features that will be required for the eventual rollout of unsupervised FSD with V13. “Lots of work, but the team’s aiming to get to feature complete for unsupervised FSD with the V13 series!” the VP of AI Software wrote in his post.
Lots of work, but the team’s aiming to get to feature complete for unsupervised FSD with the v13 series! https://t.co/zqm1PUcGP4— Ashok Elluswamy (@aelluswamy) October 31, 2024
A look at the Tesla AI team’s recent update shows that most of the upgrades that would be rolled out in V13 would be implemented for AI4 vehicles. This suggests that Tesla owners who purchased FSD and whose vehicles are equipped with Hardware 3 would likely have to wait longer to receive V13. Fortunately, Elon Musk stated during the Q3 2024 earnings call that if Hardware 3 ends up being insufficient for the safe operation of unsupervised FSD, Tesla will upgrade all HW3 vehicles with FSD to AI4 for free.
“There is some chance that Hardware 3 does not achieve the safety level that allows for Unsupervised FSD. There is some chance of that… And if that turns out to be the case, we will upgrade the group that bought Hardware 3 FSD for free. We have designed the system to be upgradeable, so it’s really just sort of switch out the computer thing— the cameras are capable. But we don’t actually know the answers to that. But if it does turn out, we’ll make sure we take care of those who brought FSD on Hardware 3,” Musk said.
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Tesla Diner to transition to full-service restaurant as Chef heads for new venture
“I am leaving the Tesla Diner project to focus on the opening of Mish, my long-desired Jewish deli. Projects like Mish and the Tesla Diner require a sharpness of focus and attention, and my focus and attention is now squarely on Mish.”
Tesla Diner, the all-in-one Supercharging and dining experience located in Los Angeles, will transition to a full-service restaurant in January, staff said, as Chef Eric Greenspan said he would take on a new project.
A report from the Los Angeles Times says Greenspan confirmed through a text that he would leave the Diner and focus on the opening of his new Jewish deli, Mish.
Greenspan confirmed to the paper:
“I am leaving the Tesla Diner project to focus on the opening of Mish, my long-desired Jewish deli. Projects like Mish and the Tesla Diner require a sharpness of focus and attention, and my focus and attention is now squarely on Mish.”
Greenspan took on the job at the Tesla Diner and curated the menu back in March, focusing on locally-sourced ingredients and items that would play on various company products, like Cybertruck-shaped boxes that hold burgers.
Tesla Cybertruck leftovers are the main course at the Supercharger Diner
The Tesla Diner has operated as somewhat of a self-serve establishment, where Tesla owners can order directly from their vehicles through the center touchscreen. It was not exclusive to Tesla owners. Guests could also enter and order at a counter, and pick up their food, before sitting at a booth or table.
However, the report indicates Tesla is planning to push it toward a sit-down restaurant, full of waiters, waitresses, and servers, all of which will come to a table after you are seated, take your order, and serve your food.
It will be more of a full-featured restaurant experience moving forward, which is an interesting move from the company, but it also sounds as if it could be testing for an expansion.
We know that Tesla is already considering expanding locations, as it will be heading to new areas of the country. CEO Elon Musk has said that Tesla will be considering locations in Palo Alto near the company’s Engineering HQ, and in Austin, where its HQ and Gigafactory Texas are located.
Musk said that the Diner has been very successful in its first few months of operation.
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Tesla adds new surprising fee to Robotaxi program
“Additional cleaning was required for the vehicle after your trip. A fee has been added to your final cost to cover this service. Please contact us if you have any questions.”
Tesla has added a new and somewhat surprising fee to the Robotaxi program. It’s only surprising because it was never there before.
Tesla shocked everyone when it launched its Robotaxi platform and offered riders the opportunity to tip, only to tell them they do not accept tips. It was one of the company’s attempts at being humorous as it rolled out its driverless platform to people in Austin.
As it has expanded to new cities and been opened to more people, as it was yesterday to iOS users, Tesla has had to tweak some of the minor details of the Robotaxi and ride-hailing platforms it operates.
First Look at Tesla’s Robotaxi App: features, design, and more
With more riders, more vehicles, and more operational jurisdictions, the company has to adjust as things become busier.
Now, it is adjusting the platform by adding “Cleaning Fees” to the Robotaxi platform, but it seems it is only charged if the vehicle requires some additional attention after your ride.
The app will communicate with the rider with the following message (via Not a Tesla App):
“Additional cleaning was required for the vehicle after your trip. A fee has been added to your final cost to cover this service. Please contact us if you have any questions.”
The cost of the cleaning will likely depend on how severe the mess is. If you spill a soda, it will likely cost less than if you lose your lunch in the back of the car because you had a few too many drinks.
This is an expected change, and it seems to be one that is needed, especially considering Tesla is operating a small-scale ride-hailing service at the current time. As it expands to more states and cities and eventually is available everywhere, there will be more situations that will arise.
The messes in vehicles are not a new situation, especially in a rideshare setting. It will be interesting to see if Tesla will enable other fees, like ones for riders who request a ride and do not show up for it.
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Tesla Model Y sold out in China for 2025
Customers who wish to get their cars by the end of the year would likely need to get an inventory unit.
It appears that the Model Y has been sold out for 2025 in China. This seems to be true for the four variants of the vehicle that are currently offered in the country.
Tesla China’s order page update
A look at Tesla China’s order page for the Model Y shows a message informing customers that those who wish to guarantee delivery by the end of the year should purchase an inventory unit. This was despite the Model Y RWD and Model Y L showing an estimated delivery timeline of 4-8 weeks, and the Model Y Long Range RWD and Model Y Long Range AWD showing 4-13 weeks.
As per industry watchers, these updates on the Model Y’s order page suggest that Tesla China’s sales capacity for the remainder of 2025 has been sold out. The fact that estimated delivery timeframes for the Model Y Long Range RWD and AWD extend up to 13 weeks also bodes well for demand for the vehicle, especially given strong rivals like the Xiaomi YU7, which undercuts the Model Y in price.
Tesla China’s upcoming big updates
What is quite interesting is that Tesla China is still competing in the country with one hand partly tied behind its back. So far, Tesla has only been able to secure partial approval for its flagship self-driving software, FSD, in China. This has resulted in V14 not being rolled out to the country yet. Despite this, Tesla China’s “Autopilot automatic assisted driving on urban roads,” as the system is called locally, has earned positive reviews from users.
As per Elon Musk during the 2025 Annual Shareholder Meeting, however, Tesla is expecting to secure full approval for FSD in China in early 2026. “We have partial approval in China, and we hopefully will have full approval in China around February or March or so. That’s what they’ve told us,” Musk said.