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Tesla (TSLA) Q3 2023 earnings: What analysts expect

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Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) is expected to hold its Q3 2023 earnings call this Wednesday, October 18, 2023. Analysts are looking to secure updates regarding the company’s margins, as well as ongoing projects such as the Cybertruck and Gigafactory Mexico. 

Tesla delivered a total of 435,059 vehicles and produced 430,488 cars in Q3 2023. The numbers represented a decline from Q2, which was due in no small part to factory shutdowns and the launch of the upgraded Model 3 in Giga Shanghai. Based on these results, Tesla has now delivered 1,324,074 vehicles year-to-date, which already exceeds the 1,313,851 cars that were delivered in 2022. 

With these in mind, the following are the top updates that TSLA analysts are looking for in the third-quarter earnings call. 

Deliveries Target

Tesla is expected to post an update on its 2023 delivery target, which was set at 1.8 million vehicles. To meet that goal, the company will need to deliver a record 476,000 vehicles in Q4. Tesla appears determined to achieve this goal, as evidenced by the price cuts for the Model S and Model X and the updates to the Model 3 and Model Y in China. 

The vehicle that would likely hold the key to Tesla’s Q4 2023 results is the upgraded Model 3, which is expected to start deliveries this quarter. With the new Model 3 in the picture, Tesla’s deliveries this quarter would likely see a notable boost. 

Tesla Margins

Nine analysts polled by Visible Alpha noted that Tesla’s price war likely pushed the company’s margins to 18.1%, excluding regulatory credits. Wells Fargo analyst Colin Langan, for his part, noted that Tesla’s margins could dip below 15% in Q4 2023, as noted in a Reuters report. 

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“We are factoring in help from the recent decline in lithium prices. However, that likely falls short of offsetting the price cuts,” Langan noted.

Cybertruck Launch and Prices

With sightings of Cybertruck release candidates rising across the United States, expectations are high that the all-electric pickup truck’s first delivery event is just around the corner. Analysts are thus looking forward to any updates on the vehicle, such as its launch date and price. 

Gary Black, managing partner of The Future Fund, expects the production Cybertruck to be more expensive than its initially-announced prices. “It will be around $49,900 for the single motor, probably $59,900 for the dual motor, and probably $79,900 for the tri-motor, a little bit higher than Model Y,” Black estimated. 

Full-Self Driving (FSD) Progress

Tesla has missed Elon Musk’s FSD predictions so much that the CEO has practically become the executive who cried autonomous driving. This does not mean to say that FSD has stagnated, however. On the contrary, FSD’s recent updates have brought the driver-assist system closer to self-driving than ever before. 

Tesla slashed the price of FSD in August. The effects of this price cut, as well as the progress of the program as a whole, are expected to be discussed by Tesla executives in the Q3 earnings call. 

Gigafactory Mexico Updates 

Tesla announced in March that it would build a new factory in the northern Mexican state of Nuevo Leon. Details about the factory, such as its cost and construction timeline, are yet to be announced. The project appears to be moving quite slowly compared to facilities such as Giga Shanghai and Giga Texas, though a senior Mexican government official noted last week that the facility’s final permits could be ready in weeks. 

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Analysts will likely be looking for updates on Giga Mexico in Tesla’s Q3 earnings call, especially considering that it is the facility that would be building the company’s next-generation vehicle and dedicated Robotaxi. 

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Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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New drone video shows Tesla’s Optimus Factory reaching a turning point

New drone footage shows Tesla’s dedicated Optimus factory steel frame nearing completion at Giga Texas.

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Tesla’s dedicated Optimus factory at Gigafactory Texas is closing in on a finished steel frame, according to drone footage posted Thursday afternoon by longtime site observer Joe Tegtmeyer. In the video, Tegtmeyer said structural steel assembly is now about five column grids away from reaching the building’s north perimeter beam, putting the primary skeleton in its final stretch roughly six months after Tesla broke ground on the North Campus site in late March.

Tegtmeyer’s footage shows concrete already going in on three upper floors while crews continue laying rebar and pouring grade beam footings at ground level. That kind of parallel work, steel rising at one end of the site while concrete sets at the other, is a scheduling approach Tesla used at the original Giga Texas building and appears to be repeating here to save time before the plant’s targeted 2027 production start.

Teslarati has tracked the building’s progress since Tesla confirmed construction was officially underway in May, when the first steel structure went up on what was then bare, reclaimed land. The facility is part of a more than 5.2 million square foot expansion of Giga Texas’s North Campus that Tesla has said will eventually run nearly the length of the existing vehicle factory, over 4,000 feet, while sitting somewhat narrower. Musk has pegged the long term output target at 10 million Optimus units a year once the line is running at full capacity, a volume that would dwarf the one million unit pilot line Tesla is standing up separately at its Fremont, California factory.

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The Texas facility sits alongside another major buildout on the same campus. Terafab, the joint Tesla and SpaceX chip fabrication plant that will eventually supply the silicon running Optimus units in the field. Housing robot assembly and chip production on the same grounds is a deliberate supply chain decision, cutting down on the shipping and lead time that would otherwise sit between the two.

Tesla has not given an updated timeline beyond its previously stated goal of bringing high volume Optimus production online at the site in the summer of 2027. Fremont’s smaller pilot line began mass producing the current Gen 3 robot in January, with that plant expected to build tens of thousands of units this year primarily to generate the real world data Tesla needs to refine the robot’s software before Giga Texas ramps up. Six months of visible construction progress, tracked almost entirely through Tegtmeyer’s recurring drone flights, gives the clearest outside look yet at how seriously Tesla is treating that 2027 deadline.

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Tesla and SpaceX take “Terafab” Trademark fight to Federal Court

Tesla and SpaceX sue a small Illinois firm after cease and desist letters over Terafab.

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Tesla and SpaceX are asking a federal judge to rule that their planned Terafab chip factory does not infringe a small Illinois company’s trademark, a request that arrives only after months of quiet negotiation broke down this summer.

The dispute traces to May 18, when Tesla filed three U.S. trademark applications for “Terafab” and “Tesla Terafab,” covering semiconductor chips and related chip making services. TERA-print LLC, a nanotechnology company that has held a federal trademark for “Tera-Fab” since 2021, responded five days later with a cease and desist letter. According to the lawsuit, first reported by Reuters, TERA-print argued that Tesla and SpaceX’s use of “Terafab” would confuse consumers familiar with its own trademark, which covers a desktop photolithography printer sold to researchers for sensor and bioengineering work.

What stands out in the filing is the timing of TERA-print’s own paperwork. One day before sending that cease and desist letter, on May 22, TERA-print applied to expand its existing registration to cover semiconductor materials, silicon chips, nanoelectronic devices and AI design services, categories it had not previously claimed. Tesla and SpaceX call that filing opportunistic in their complaint, noting it arrived two months after Tesla’s public Terafab announcement and just days after Tesla’s own trademark applications went in.

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By June 10, TERA-print was threatening to sue for federal trademark infringement, false designation of origin and unfair competition, the complaint states. Rather than wait to be sued, Tesla, SpaceX and SpaceXAI met with TERA-print six separate times between June and August trying to resolve the dispute directly. Those talks collapsed, and the companies filed for declaratory judgment this week in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, asking a judge to find that “Terafab” does not infringe TERA-print’s mark before TERA-print can file a claim of its own.

TERA-print isn’t backing down. The company told PCMag it discussed a settlement with Tesla as recently as September 2 and feels misled by what it called Tesla’s professed interest in settling. Its CTO, Andrey Ivankin, said TERA-print holds a Defense Department contract to fabricate semiconductors and partially owns Mattiq Inc., an AI company built on TERA-print’s products, and that the company will vigorously defend its rights.

Tesla and SpaceX argue the overlap is superficial. Terafab is planned as a $16.8 billion complex spanning roughly 100 million square feet at the Grimes County site SpaceX confirmed last month, built to produce chips for Optimus robots, Tesla’s AI computing needs and SpaceX’s orbital data center ambitions, a scale and purpose the companies say no reasonable consumer would confuse with a tabletop lab printer. TERA-print’s product line has stayed focused on lithography tools for biological and sensor research since it registered its mark in 2021.

The trademark fight is the second legal dispute tied to the Terafab project in the past week, following a separate SpaceX suit aimed at keeping company records about the facility out of public view, as KBTX reported. Whether construction proceeds under the Terafab name now depends on a federal judge in Austin.

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Tesla uber bull Ron Baron says ‘the time to buy the stock is now’

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In a new interview on Wednesday, Tesla uber bull Ron Baron said that anyone looking to buy the company’s stock should do so as soon as they can.

Baron, founder and CEO of Baron Capital and one of Tesla’s most persistent institutional bulls, used a CNBC Squawk Box appearance on Wednesday to deliver a familiar message with fresh urgency: In his opinion, Tesla stock is a buy:

“The time to buy the stock is now. FSD is catching on, and it’s going to be bigger and bigger. 55% of new buyers are buying it (Teslas) with FSD. It’s going to be everywhere. It’s safer.”

The Baron Capital frontman’s case is built around Full Self-Driving. Tesla reported 1.48 million active FSD subscriptions in the second quarter, up 56 percent year over year, and company officials have said roughly 55 percent of new North American deliveries left with a subscription enabled.

Baron framed that attach rate as proof the product is moving from enthusiast extra to default expectation, and as a reason software, not just vehicle volume, should drive the next phase of value.

His conviction on Tesla shares is not theoretical, as Baron Capital made its first Tesla investment in 2014, after years of meetings that began around the 2010 IPO roadshow. The firm later built a large SpaceX position starting in 2017.

Baron said those Musk-led bets have generated about $30 billion of the $71 billion in profits Baron Capital has produced for clients. He put the firm’s current exposure at roughly $25 billion in SpaceX and $5 billion in Tesla. Personally, he described SpaceX as his largest holding, at about $5 billion, with about $1.5 billion in Tesla and additional Tesla exposure through the firm’s funds.

That concentration is also a statement of loyalty. Asked about talk of a SpaceX-Tesla combination, Baron said he had already walked Elon Musk through arguments for and against a deal, then declined to repeat them on air. His public position was simpler: “Whatever you decide is better is what I’m going to support,” he said to Musk.

Baron also said that he picked up the farewell edition of the Model S after Tesla decided to sunset the vehicle earlier this year, calling it his favorite car he’s ever driven.

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