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LIVE BLOG: Tesla (TSLA) Q4 and Full Year 2020 earnings call summary
Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) fourth-quarter and full year earnings call comes on the heels of an impressive quarter that saw the electric car maker post $10.7 billion in revenue and $903 million non-GAAP net income. With these results, Tesla has now maintained its profitability for six consecutive quarters.
As revealed in the company’s Q4 FY 2020 Update Letter, Tesla currently sits on $19.4 billion in cash, thanks to a capital raise of $5 billion that further strengthened the company’s war chest. This should allow Tesla to pursue its projects in the United States and abroad, particularly in Texas and Berlin, where two Gigafactories are currently being built. Tesla has also taken the wraps off the Model S and Model X refresh, ending a long period of speculation among electric vehicle enthusiasts.
The following are live updates from Tesla’s Q4 FY 2020 earnings call. I will be updating this article in real-time, so please keep refreshing the page to view the latest updates on this story. The first entry starts at the bottom of the page.
16:34 PT – And that’s it for the Q4 FY 2020 earnings call, everyone! Tons of new info have been shared over the call, and considering what was discussed, it seems like 2021 would be a pretty exciting year once more. With that said, thanks for joining us this time once more for our live blog. We’ll see you in the Q1 2021 earnings call!
16:31 PT – Gene Munster from Loup Ventures asks about the Semi and if the vehicle is the first to achieve full autonomy considering that its routes are extremely predictable. Musk responds that this will indeed be the case. No retraining would be needed to adapt FSD for the Semi, the CEO explained, though some adjustments would need to be made.
16:28 PT – Emmanuel Rosner from Deutsche Bank asks about the cost efficiencies of the 4680 battery cell, as well as the company’s affordable car. Musk notes that three or four years would be a good timeframe to reach such goals. Baird, on the other hand, asks about X (Elon Musk’s possible umbrella company). Musk notes that he expects to be with Tesla for the next years. “I expect to be CEO of Tesla for several years in the future,” Musk said, though he noted that nobody should be CEO forever. “It would be nice to have more than free time in my hands,” Musk remarked, but “the mission is not over yet and there’s still a long way to go before we can make a dent in the world’s acceleration to sustainable energy.” The same is true for solar and stationary storage. There’s still so much work to be done.
16:23 PT – RBC Capital Markets asks about the electric van market. “Tesla is definitely going to make an electric van at one point,” Musk said, though he reiterates that the constraint lies in battery supply. He mentions the Semi, which uses a lot of cells. Musk notes that the Semi would make sense to produce once Tesla addresses its battery constraint. Simply put, when the 4680 is produced in volume, the Semi will come. Musk also talks about Tesla’s next-generation computer. He notes that Tesla’s next-gen chip would be 3x more powerful than the company’s current custom hardware, which is still not being utilized to its full potential today. “We’ve not been rushing the V2 computer. It’s coming along,” Musk said.
16:18 PT – Alex Potter from Piper Sandler asks about Tesla’s intention to increase its battery supply from its suppliers, and if suppliers need to produce 4680 cells. Musk notes that it does not. “It is not required,” Musk said, adding that even the new Model S still uses the 18650 form factor. He noted that Tesla will be retiring its old battery form factors in due time, but it’s better to have some flexibility. “Over time, it would make sense to have a consistency with battery form factor,” he adds. As for Tesla’s growth rate, Elon notes that Tesla poised to massive growth. “We do think we can maintain a growth rate of 50% for many years to come,” he said.
16:15 PT – Dan Levy from Credit Suisse asks about regulatory credits. Kirkhorn highlights that regulatory credit sales are difficult to forecast. He notes that most of Q4’ regulatory credit sales were not forecasted at all. They are simply not predictable. That being said, Tesla is not dependent on it nor does it rely on regulatory credits.
16:12 PT – Analyst questions begin. First up is from Oppenheimer asking about FSD regulations. Tesla notes that it will be all about reliability. There’s a slowdown in Europe, while China’s shown an interest in Level 4 or even Level 5 autonomy. As for the US, it will be all about how reliable autonomous software will be. As for the supply chain, Jerome Guillen notes that there are still challenges related to COVID, though work is underway to address this.
16:10 PT – As for Cybertruck development and 2021 deliveries, Musk stated that Tesla is finished with the vehicle’s engineering. Tesla has the necessary designs to make the Cybertruck work. Tesla will be using 8,000-ton press for the Cybertruck, which is more formidable than the Giga Press used for the Model Y, which is a 6,000-ton press.
16:08 PT – Elon also discusses Tesla’s China operations and its success, though he notes that FSD take rate in the country is conservative. He notes that Tesla has to work hard in ensuring that FSD and Autopilot work well in roads outside North America. As for Tesla’s long-term earnings being tied to profit per unit of battery capacity, Musk responded that this is indeed the case. EV makers can’t grow faster than their battery capacity. “Fundamentally, growth is dependent on cell production,” Musk said, noting that Tesla’s efforts to produce its own cells is to produce more batteries, not to compete with its suppliers. “Our goal with making our own cells is not to intimidate our suppliers. It is to supplement our suppliers,” Musk said.
16:04 PT – Addressing an inquiry from an institutional investor about Tesla’s possible plans to license its software like Autobidder to third party or OEMs. “We’re very open to licensing our software to other OEMs,” Musk said, adding that Tesla is in talks to license Autopilot to other companies. “We’re more than happy to license that to other car companies, and the same goes for Autobidder,” the CEO noted. He also mentions that the Supercharger Network will be fine for sharing too.
16:00 PT – Tesla service issues are addressed. Automotive Director Jerome Guillen notes that Tesla is looking to improve service amidst the company’s efforts to reduce service needs as possible. The executive noted that mobile service will play a huge part in this, with 40% of service needs in the US are now done through mobile. In terms of service appointments, Guillen notes that Tesla has 140 service centers in North America, with customers getting an appointment within 10 days. The pace of opening centers in North America is ramping, with Tesla planning on opening dozens in the first half of this year. He also explains that in terms of app vs phone support, apps are more robust. He notes that Tesla is investing everything it can on the app. “Our emphasis is on the app… It’s the way of the future,” he said.
15:57 PT – As for Tesla’s run rate for 4680 cell production, Elon Musk noted that the company is installing capacity to produce 200 GWh per year around 2022. Drew Baglino adds that with the S-curve of production, one could be off a bit, but Tesla is progressing through this S-curve as fast as possible.
15:52 PT – The second Say question from a retail investor is asked. FSD transfers. Elon notes that Tesla is not looking into this at this time. He mentions FSD’s price increases, and the fact that the market is undervaluing FSD considering its potential. He did note that Tesla will be offering subscriptions within the next month or two, which should help with pricing. As for the dry coating of the battery electrode for 4680 cells, VP of Technology Drew Baglino notes that the challenges are being addressed today. Tesla’s Roadrunner site in Fremont is getting better with its dry electrode process and its 4680 cell manufacturing. The setup for a 10 GWh annual production rate is there already. It’s only a matter of time.
15:49 PT – The first questions from Say are asked. First up, “What is currently holding Tesla back from being the market share leader in solar?” Musk notes that Tesla does indeed plan on being the market share leader. He explains that attention is now being put on solar, which should improve its ramp. “It won’t be long before Tesla becomes the leader in solar.” Kirkhorn also highlights that having industry-leading pricing is pivotal in dominating the solar industry. This is something that Tesla is doing right now.
15:45 PT – CFO Zachary Kirkhorn takes the floor. He highlights Tesla’s strong free cash flow, which secures the company’s funds for its programs. He also mentions that Tesla relies less on debts now, especially as the company establishes its momentum with its sixth consecutive profitable quarter. He also explains automotive margins in Q4, noting that it was affected by the changes in the Model S and Model X line for the refresh, as well as the deployment of machines like the Giga Press in Fremont.
15:43 PT – Musk talks about how to justify Tesla’s high valuation. He explains that FSD will play a huge part in this. In conclusion, Musk noted that 2020 was just the beginning in terms of profitability. “It will be exciting,” he said. Provided that 2021 is relatively normal (unlike 2020), Musk is optimistic that Tesla can reach new heights. “We think 2021 will be more exciting…it’s going to be a great year for Tesla. Many new great products coming out,” he said.
15:40 PT – Musk also talks about the FSD beta rollout. “We have made massive improvements to FSD Beta,” he said. He adds that there are almost 1K people testing the software at this point. “It’s very common to have no interventions in drives to places that I’ve never been to,” Musk said, sharing some of his experiences with the FSD beta.
15:38 PT – Tesla Model S and Model X production is ongoing now. Model S Plaid will start deliveries next month. Model S Plaid will come a bit later. “It’s really a tremendous improvement over the prior version.” The Model S will be the first production car ever that will be able to go from 0-60 mph in under 2 seconds. “This is a luxury sedan that can go 0-60 in less than 2 seconds, and it will have the capability to seat seven people with its third row seats,” Musk remarked. More details to come later this week.
15:35 PT – Elon’s opening remarks. He recaps 2020, calling it a defining year for Tesla, especially when as the company accomplishes its target of delivering and producing half a million cars. That’s despite the challenging year. Free cash flow is healthy despite spending quite a lot of money. Simply put, Tesla has enough funds for its ambitious projects. Elon notes that Model 3 and Model Y are ramping in Shanghai and Fremont, and the heat pump is also rolled out to all vehicles. He also talks about Giga Berlin, Texas, and the Roadrunner site in Fremont.
15:32 PT – And it begins! Martin Viecha Senior Director of Investor Relations takes the floor. He introduces Elon Musk and Zachary Kirkhorn and a number of Tesla executives.
15:25 PT – Last few minutes guys. Here we go.
15:21 PT – Ok, guys, homestretch here. Who has bets on the earnings call starting on Elon Time? Then again, the earnings results are positive, so Tesla may be quite excited.
15:20 PT – I also just realized that the Model S and Model X refresh’s 17″ display is probably identical to the one used in the Cybertruck. Now I’m wondering if the Semi will use two of these screens. Kinda makes sense, doesn’t it?
15:15 PT – Also noteworthy is that the Model S and Model X refresh is now taking the fight to the world’s best luxury sedans with in terms of comfort as well. As could be seen in Tesla’s online configurator, both flagship vehicles are now equipped with a 22-speaker system with new microphone setup, which paves the way for active noise canceling tech. We reported on this recently, as could be seen here.
15:00 PT – Another thing that’s particularly notable is Tesla’s subtle, continued efforts to kill the FUD against electric cars. The Model S and Model X refresh are both equipped with a heat pump, which should enable the flagship vehicles to perform five times as many high-speed quarter-mile runs as before. Repeatability? Check.
14:45 PT – Several things stick out from the Q4 FY 2020 Update Letter. I’m particularly impressed with the company’s performance in its Energy business. Tesla Energy has long been underrated, and it’s always pushed to the background by the company’s auto business. But every quarter, Tesla Energy is becoming more and more prominent. In 2020, energy battery deployment surpassed 3 GWh for the first time. That’s some serious momentum.
14:30 PT – Well, well, well, looks like I’m early this time around. Please do check back in a bit as we will be covering the entire Q&A session. There’s usually a ton of interesting tidbits of information that get shared in Tesla’s earnings calls. Some analysts’ questions are also usually unforgettable.
14:15 PT – Good day, everyone, and welcome to another live blog of Tesla’s earnings call! While Tesla missed Wall Street’s EPS estimates, the company did post a huge profit and its war chest is very formidable now. But all the exciting financials aside, there’s very little doubt that the EV community is currently most excited about the Model S and Model X refresh. The wait for these vehicles has been significant, but boy oh boy, are they worth it.
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Why automakers keep turning down Elon Musk’s Tesla Full Self-Driving offer
Elon Musk confirms no automaker has ever accepted Tesla’s offer to license Full Self-Driving software.
Elon Musk gave a brief answer on X Monday that confirmed that Tesla’s standing offer to license Full Self-Driving to other automakers still has zero takers. Sawyer Merritt wrote that “Tesla has for years openly invited other automakers to license FSD. None of them have accepted,” responding to a prediction from Boom Supersonic founder Blake Scholl that Tesla would eventually open FSD the way it opened its Supercharger network to rival brands. Musk’s reply to Merritt was one word: “Exactly.”
It is not the first time Musk has made this point. He said something similar in November, when he called legacy automakers reluctance to adopt FSD “crazy,” and Tesla has floated the offer publicly since at least 2021. Scholl’s prediction touches on something real. Once NACS became the de facto charging standard, adoption from Ford, GM, Rivian and others followed within about a year. FSD licensing was supposed to work the same way once Tesla built enough of a lead that switching made sense for everyone.
Tesla has for years openly invited other automakers to license FSD. None of them have accepted. https://t.co/kgz4idpoUM
— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) September 22, 2026
The case for licensing now is stronger than it was two years ago. Waymo and Zoox are logging hundreds of thousands of unsupervised autonomous miles, along with Tesla’s own Robotaxi fleet. Every automaker still selling driver assist systems that lag FSD has given the robotaxi conversation to Tesla, Waymo and Zoox by default. Licensing FSD would let a GM or a Ford compete on the same field without spending a decade and billions of dollars building a stack from scratch, the same argument Tesla made when it opened the Supercharger network to bring more EVs onto its chargers.
But FSD is not a connector standard. As one reply to Musk’s post pointed out, licensing FSD is not a software license the way NACS was a plug spec. It requires adopting Tesla’s eight camera layout and its onboard compute architecture, meaning a licensee’s cars would effectively become Tesla hardware wearing someone else’s badge. That is the visible obstacle. The less visible one is data. A licensed FSD stack would report back the same telemetry Tesla collects from its own fleet, giving Tesla a continuous read on how a competitor’s cars are actually driven, where they struggle, and how often drivers intervene. For an automaker trying to build its own autonomy program, or simply trying to keep its build quality and safety record private, handing Tesla that visibility could be a bigger cost than the hardware bill. It is the reason the Supercharger comparison only goes so far. Opening a charging plug cost Tesla very little. Opening FSD would cost a rival something it cannot get back.
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Tesla eyes supply partners for Optimus mass production
Tesla certified three Chinese suppliers for Optimus mass production, signaling its robot timeline is accelerating.
Tesla’s robotics team traveled to Ningbo, in China’s Zhejiang province, on September 16 and spent the following day auditing component suppliers for Optimus, according to a Bloomberg report cited by RobotAIGeek. The visit moved three manufacturers from provisional status to certified mass production partners: Tuopu Group, which handles actuators and chassis components, Ningbo Joyson Electronic, a sensor supplier, and Zhejiang Sanhua Intelligent Controls, which builds thermal management systems. All three already supply parts to Tesla’s electric vehicles, and the audit reportedly came with fresh orders that supply chain reports put at an initial batch of roughly 5,000 units.
Tuopu, Joyson, and Sanhua built their manufacturing base serving the automotive industry, where tolerances and volume requirements are already close to what a mass produced humanoid robot demands. Sanhua in particular has history here. Teslarati reported last October that the company had received a roughly $685 million order for linear actuators tied to Optimus, a volume industry watchers estimated could cover around 180,000 robots once production ramped.
Supply chain reports tied to this week’s audit put Tesla’s near term production goal at about 1,000 Optimus units a week by late September, rising to 2,000 to 2,500 units a week by the end of the year. That pace would put real weight behind the timeline Tesla has been building toward since May, when it wound down Model S and Model X production at Fremont to convert that floor space into a dedicated Optimus line targeting one million units annually. JPMorgan analysts who toured the factory in August confirmed the conversion took roughly four months, a pace Musk has called unprecedented for a facility that size.
New drone video shows Tesla’s Optimus Factory reaching a turning point
Fremont is only the first phase. A second, larger Optimus plant is rising at Gigafactory Texas, where drone footage shared by Joe Tegtmeyer last week showed the structural steel nearing completion on the north end of the building. Tesla has said that facility is meant to eventually support production of up to 10 million units a year, though volume output there is not expected before 2027.
Commercial sales of Optimus are still targeted for the second half of 2027, but production is expected to start well before then. JPMorgan analyst Rajat Gupta has said Tesla’s “Optimus Academy” program, which uses early units to collect real world training data inside Tesla’s own facilities, is expected to be running later this year. Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Ian Ma described the Ningbo audits as “a positive commercialization signal for China’s humanoid supply chain,” noting that sentiment could improve further if the visit leads to confirmed supplier nominations and larger orders. The Solactive China Humanoid Robotics Index rose about 1.4% on the news, though it remains down roughly 30% for the year.
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New drone video shows Tesla’s Optimus Factory reaching a turning point
New drone footage shows Tesla’s dedicated Optimus factory steel frame nearing completion at Giga Texas.
Tesla’s dedicated Optimus factory at Gigafactory Texas is closing in on a finished steel frame, according to drone footage posted Thursday afternoon by longtime site observer Joe Tegtmeyer. In the video, Tegtmeyer said structural steel assembly is now about five column grids away from reaching the building’s north perimeter beam, putting the primary skeleton in its final stretch roughly six months after Tesla broke ground on the North Campus site in late March.
The Giga Texas Optimus Factory latest update … construction keeps moving fast!
Steel assembly is now only about 5 column grids from the north perimeter beam. Concrete is going in on the three upper floors, rebar is still being laid for more pours, and footing / grade-beam work… pic.twitter.com/qvFPvwnYzW
— Joe Tegtmeyer 🚀 🤠🛸😎 (@JoeTegtmeyer) September 17, 2026
Tegtmeyer’s footage shows concrete already going in on three upper floors while crews continue laying rebar and pouring grade beam footings at ground level. That kind of parallel work, steel rising at one end of the site while concrete sets at the other, is a scheduling approach Tesla used at the original Giga Texas building and appears to be repeating here to save time before the plant’s targeted 2027 production start.
Teslarati has tracked the building’s progress since Tesla confirmed construction was officially underway in May, when the first steel structure went up on what was then bare, reclaimed land. The facility is part of a more than 5.2 million square foot expansion of Giga Texas’s North Campus that Tesla has said will eventually run nearly the length of the existing vehicle factory, over 4,000 feet, while sitting somewhat narrower. Musk has pegged the long term output target at 10 million Optimus units a year once the line is running at full capacity, a volume that would dwarf the one million unit pilot line Tesla is standing up separately at its Fremont, California factory.
Tesla Giga Texas to feature massive Optimus V4 production line
The Texas facility sits alongside another major buildout on the same campus. Terafab, the joint Tesla and SpaceX chip fabrication plant that will eventually supply the silicon running Optimus units in the field. Housing robot assembly and chip production on the same grounds is a deliberate supply chain decision, cutting down on the shipping and lead time that would otherwise sit between the two.
Tesla has not given an updated timeline beyond its previously stated goal of bringing high volume Optimus production online at the site in the summer of 2027. Fremont’s smaller pilot line began mass producing the current Gen 3 robot in January, with that plant expected to build tens of thousands of units this year primarily to generate the real world data Tesla needs to refine the robot’s software before Giga Texas ramps up. Six months of visible construction progress, tracked almost entirely through Tegtmeyer’s recurring drone flights, gives the clearest outside look yet at how seriously Tesla is treating that 2027 deadline.
Why automakers keep turning down Elon Musk’s Tesla Full Self-Driving offer
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