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LIVE BLOG: Tesla (TSLA) Q4 and Full Year 2020 earnings call summary

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Tesla’s (NASDAQ:TSLA) fourth-quarter and full year earnings call comes on the heels of an impressive quarter that saw the electric car maker post $10.7 billion in revenue and $903 million non-GAAP net income. With these results, Tesla has now maintained its profitability for six consecutive quarters.

As revealed in the company’s Q4 FY 2020 Update Letter, Tesla currently sits on $19.4 billion in cash, thanks to a capital raise of $5 billion that further strengthened the company’s war chest. This should allow Tesla to pursue its projects in the United States and abroad, particularly in Texas and Berlin, where two Gigafactories are currently being built. Tesla has also taken the wraps off the Model S and Model X refresh, ending a long period of speculation among electric vehicle enthusiasts.

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The following are live updates from Tesla’s Q4 FY 2020 earnings call. I will be updating this article in real-time, so please keep refreshing the page to view the latest updates on this story. The first entry starts at the bottom of the page.

16:34 PT – And that’s it for the Q4 FY 2020 earnings call, everyone! Tons of new info have been shared over the call, and considering what was discussed, it seems like 2021 would be a pretty exciting year once more. With that said, thanks for joining us this time once more for our live blog. We’ll see you in the Q1 2021 earnings call!

16:31 PT – Gene Munster from Loup Ventures asks about the Semi and if the vehicle is the first to achieve full autonomy considering that its routes are extremely predictable. Musk responds that this will indeed be the case. No retraining would be needed to adapt FSD for the Semi, the CEO explained, though some adjustments would need to be made.

16:28 PT – Emmanuel Rosner from Deutsche Bank asks about the cost efficiencies of the 4680 battery cell, as well as the company’s affordable car. Musk notes that three or four years would be a good timeframe to reach such goals. Baird, on the other hand, asks about X (Elon Musk’s possible umbrella company). Musk notes that he expects to be with Tesla for the next years. “I expect to be CEO of Tesla for several years in the future,” Musk said, though he noted that nobody should be CEO forever. “It would be nice to have more than free time in my hands,” Musk remarked, but “the mission is not over yet and there’s still a long way to go before we can make a dent in the world’s acceleration to sustainable energy.” The same is true for solar and stationary storage. There’s still so much work to be done.

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16:23 PT – RBC Capital Markets asks about the electric van market. “Tesla is definitely going to make an electric van at one point,” Musk said, though he reiterates that the constraint lies in battery supply. He mentions the Semi, which uses a lot of cells. Musk notes that the Semi would make sense to produce once Tesla addresses its battery constraint. Simply put, when the 4680 is produced in volume, the Semi will come. Musk also talks about Tesla’s next-generation computer. He notes that Tesla’s next-gen chip would be 3x more powerful than the company’s current custom hardware, which is still not being utilized to its full potential today. “We’ve not been rushing the V2 computer. It’s coming along,” Musk said.

16:18 PT – Alex Potter from Piper Sandler asks about Tesla’s intention to increase its battery supply from its suppliers, and if suppliers need to produce 4680 cells. Musk notes that it does not. “It is not required,” Musk said, adding that even the new Model S still uses the 18650 form factor. He noted that Tesla will be retiring its old battery form factors in due time, but it’s better to have some flexibility. “Over time, it would make sense to have a consistency with battery form factor,” he adds. As for Tesla’s growth rate, Elon notes that Tesla poised to massive growth. “We do think we can maintain a growth rate of 50% for many years to come,” he said.

16:15 PT – Dan Levy from Credit Suisse asks about regulatory credits. Kirkhorn highlights that regulatory credit sales are difficult to forecast. He notes that most of Q4’ regulatory credit sales were not forecasted at all. They are simply not predictable. That being said, Tesla is not dependent on it nor does it rely on regulatory credits.

16:12 PT – Analyst questions begin. First up is from Oppenheimer asking about FSD regulations. Tesla notes that it will be all about reliability. There’s a slowdown in Europe, while China’s shown an interest in Level 4 or even Level 5 autonomy. As for the US, it will be all about how reliable autonomous software will be. As for the supply chain, Jerome Guillen notes that there are still challenges related to COVID, though work is underway to address this.

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16:10 PT – As for Cybertruck development and 2021 deliveries, Musk stated that Tesla is finished with the vehicle’s engineering. Tesla has the necessary designs to make the Cybertruck work. Tesla will be using 8,000-ton press for the Cybertruck, which is more formidable than the Giga Press used for the Model Y, which is a 6,000-ton press.

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16:08 PT – Elon also discusses Tesla’s China operations and its success, though he notes that FSD take rate in the country is conservative. He notes that Tesla has to work hard in ensuring that FSD and Autopilot work well in roads outside North America. As for Tesla’s long-term earnings being tied to profit per unit of battery capacity, Musk responded that this is indeed the case. EV makers can’t grow faster than their battery capacity. “Fundamentally, growth is dependent on cell production,” Musk said, noting that Tesla’s efforts to produce its own cells is to produce more batteries, not to compete with its suppliers. “Our goal with making our own cells is not to intimidate our suppliers. It is to supplement our suppliers,” Musk said.

16:04 PT – Addressing an inquiry from an institutional investor about Tesla’s possible plans to license its software like Autobidder to third party or OEMs. “We’re very open to licensing our software to other OEMs,” Musk said, adding that Tesla is in talks to license Autopilot to other companies. “We’re more than happy to license that to other car companies, and the same goes for Autobidder,” the CEO noted. He also mentions that the Supercharger Network will be fine for sharing too.

16:00 PT – Tesla service issues are addressed. Automotive Director Jerome Guillen notes that Tesla is looking to improve service amidst the company’s efforts to reduce service needs as possible. The executive noted that mobile service will play a huge part in this, with 40% of service needs in the US are now done through mobile. In terms of service appointments, Guillen notes that Tesla has 140 service centers in North America, with customers getting an appointment within 10 days. The pace of opening centers in North America is ramping, with Tesla planning on opening dozens in the first half of this year. He also explains that in terms of app vs phone support, apps are more robust. He notes that Tesla is investing everything it can on the app. “Our emphasis is on the app… It’s the way of the future,” he said.

15:57 PT – As for Tesla’s run rate for 4680 cell production, Elon Musk noted that the company is installing capacity to produce 200 GWh per year around 2022. Drew Baglino adds that with the S-curve of production, one could be off a bit, but Tesla is progressing through this S-curve as fast as possible.

15:52 PT – The second Say question from a retail investor is asked. FSD transfers. Elon notes that Tesla is not looking into this at this time. He mentions FSD’s price increases, and the fact that the market is undervaluing FSD considering its potential. He did note that Tesla will be offering subscriptions within the next month or two, which should help with pricing. As for the dry coating of the battery electrode for 4680 cells, VP of Technology Drew Baglino notes that the challenges are being addressed today. Tesla’s Roadrunner site in Fremont is getting better with its dry electrode process and its 4680 cell manufacturing. The setup for a 10 GWh annual production rate is there already. It’s only a matter of time.

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15:49 PT – The first questions from Say are asked. First up, “What is currently holding Tesla back from being the market share leader in solar?” Musk notes that Tesla does indeed plan on being the market share leader. He explains that attention is now being put on solar, which should improve its ramp. “It won’t be long before Tesla becomes the leader in solar.” Kirkhorn also highlights that having industry-leading pricing is pivotal in dominating the solar industry. This is something that Tesla is doing right now.

15:45 PT – CFO Zachary Kirkhorn takes the floor. He highlights Tesla’s strong free cash flow, which secures the company’s funds for its programs. He also mentions that Tesla relies less on debts now, especially as the company establishes its momentum with its sixth consecutive profitable quarter. He also explains automotive margins in Q4, noting that it was affected by the changes in the Model S and Model X line for the refresh, as well as the deployment of machines like the Giga Press in Fremont.

15:43 PT – Musk talks about how to justify Tesla’s high valuation. He explains that FSD will play a huge part in this. In conclusion, Musk noted that 2020 was just the beginning in terms of profitability. “It will be exciting,” he said. Provided that 2021 is relatively normal (unlike 2020), Musk is optimistic that Tesla can reach new heights. “We think 2021 will be more exciting…it’s going to be a great year for Tesla. Many new great products coming out,” he said.

15:40 PT – Musk also talks about the FSD beta rollout. “We have made massive improvements to FSD Beta,” he said. He adds that there are almost 1K people testing the software at this point. “It’s very common to have no interventions in drives to places that I’ve never been to,” Musk said, sharing some of his experiences with the FSD beta.

15:38 PT – Tesla Model S and Model X production is ongoing now. Model S Plaid will start deliveries next month. Model S Plaid will come a bit later. “It’s really a tremendous improvement over the prior version.” The Model S will be the first production car ever that will be able to go from 0-60 mph in under 2 seconds. “This is a luxury sedan that can go 0-60 in less than 2 seconds, and it will have the capability to seat seven people with its third row seats,” Musk remarked. More details to come later this week.

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15:35 PT – Elon’s opening remarks. He recaps 2020, calling it a defining year for Tesla, especially when as the company accomplishes its target of delivering and producing half a million cars. That’s despite the challenging year. Free cash flow is healthy despite spending quite a lot of money. Simply put, Tesla has enough funds for its ambitious projects. Elon notes that Model 3 and Model Y are ramping in Shanghai and Fremont, and the heat pump is also rolled out to all vehicles. He also talks about Giga Berlin, Texas, and the Roadrunner site in Fremont.

15:32 PT – And it begins! Martin Viecha Senior Director of Investor Relations takes the floor. He introduces Elon Musk and Zachary Kirkhorn and a number of Tesla executives.

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15:25 PT – Last few minutes guys. Here we go.

15:21 PT – Ok, guys, homestretch here. Who has bets on the earnings call starting on Elon Time? Then again, the earnings results are positive, so Tesla may be quite excited.

15:20 PT – I also just realized that the Model S and Model X refresh’s 17″ display is probably identical to the one used in the Cybertruck. Now I’m wondering if the Semi will use two of these screens. Kinda makes sense, doesn’t it?

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15:15 PT – Also noteworthy is that the Model S and Model X refresh is now taking the fight to the world’s best luxury sedans with in terms of comfort as well. As could be seen in Tesla’s online configurator, both flagship vehicles are now equipped with a 22-speaker system with new microphone setup, which paves the way for active noise canceling tech. We reported on this recently, as could be seen here.

15:00 PT – Another thing that’s particularly notable is Tesla’s subtle, continued efforts to kill the FUD against electric cars. The Model S and Model X refresh are both equipped with a heat pump, which should enable the flagship vehicles to perform five times as many high-speed quarter-mile runs as before. Repeatability? Check.

14:45 PT – Several things stick out from the Q4 FY 2020 Update Letter. I’m particularly impressed with the company’s performance in its Energy business. Tesla Energy has long been underrated, and it’s always pushed to the background by the company’s auto business. But every quarter, Tesla Energy is becoming more and more prominent. In 2020, energy battery deployment surpassed 3 GWh for the first time. That’s some serious momentum.

14:30 PT – Well, well, well, looks like I’m early this time around. Please do check back in a bit as we will be covering the entire Q&A session. There’s usually a ton of interesting tidbits of information that get shared in Tesla’s earnings calls. Some analysts’ questions are also usually unforgettable.

14:15 PT –  Good day, everyone, and welcome to another live blog of Tesla’s earnings call! While Tesla missed Wall Street’s EPS estimates, the company did post a huge profit and its war chest is very formidable now. But all the exciting financials aside, there’s very little doubt that the EV community is currently most excited about the Model S and Model X refresh. The wait for these vehicles has been significant, but boy oh boy, are they worth it. 

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Simon is an experienced automotive reporter with a passion for electric cars and clean energy. Fascinated by the world envisioned by Elon Musk, he hopes to make it to Mars (at least as a tourist) someday. For stories or tips--or even to just say a simple hello--send a message to his email, simon@teslarati.com or his handle on X, @ResidentSponge.

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Bank of America raises Tesla PT to $471, citing Robotaxi and Optimus potential

The firm also kept a Neutral rating on the electric vehicle maker, citing strong progress in autonomy and robotics.

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Bank of America has raised its Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) price target by 38% to $471, up from $341 per share.

The firm also kept a Neutral rating on the electric vehicle maker, citing strong progress in autonomy and robotics.

Robotaxi and Optimus momentum

Bank of America analyst Federico Merendi noted that the firm’s price target increase reflects Tesla’s growing potential in its Robotaxi and Optimus programs, among other factors. BofA’s updated valuation is based on a sum-of-the-parts (SOTP) model extending through 2040, which shows the Robotaxi platform accounting for 45% of total value. The model also shows Tesla’s humanoid robot Optimus contributing 19%, and Full Self-Driving (FSD) and the Energy segment adding 17% and 6% respectively.

“Overall, we find that TSLA’s core automotive business represents around 12% of the total value while robotaxi is 45%, FSD is 17%, Energy Generation & Storage is around 6% and Optimus is 19%,” the Bank of America analyst noted.

Still a Neutral rating

Despite recognizing long-term potential in AI-driven verticals, Merendi’s team maintained a Neutral rating, suggesting that much of the optimism is already priced into Tesla’s valuation. 

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“Our PO revision is driven by a lower cost of equity capital, better Robotaxi progress, and a higher valuation for Optimus to account for the potential entrance into international markets,” the analyst stated.

Interestingly enough, Tesla’s core automotive business, which contributes the lion’s share of the company’s operations today, represents just 12% of total value in BofA’s model.

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Tesla analyst: ‘near zero chance’ Elon Musk’s $1T comp package is rejected

“There is a near-zero chance that $TSLA shareholders will vote down Elon’s new proposed comp plan at the Nov 6 shareholders’ meeting.”

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A Tesla analyst says there is “zero chance” that CEO Elon Musk’s new compensation package is rejected, a testament to the loyalty and belief many shareholders and investors have in the frontman.

Tesla investors will vote on November 6 at the annual Shareholder Meeting to approve a new compensation package for Musk, revealed by the company’s Board of Directors earlier this month.

The package, if approved, would give Musk the opportunity to earn $1 trillion in stock, an ownership concentration of over 27 percent (a major request of Musk’s), and a solidified future at the company.

The Tesla Community on X, the social media platform Musk bought in 2023, is overwhelmingly in favor of the pay package, though a handful of skeptics remain.

Nevertheless, the big pulls of this vote are held by proxy firms and other large-scale investors. Two of them, Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS) and Glass Lewis, said they would be voting against Musk’s proposed compensation plan.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s $1 trillion pay package hits first adversity from proxy firm

Today, the State Board of Administration of Florida (SBA) said it would vote in favor of Musk’s newly-proposed pay day, making it the first large-scale shareholder to announce it would support the CEO’s pay.

One analyst said that Musk’s payday is inevitable. Gary Black of the Future Fund said today there is a “near-zero chance” that shareholders will allow Musk’s pay package to be rejected:

There is a near-zero chance that $TSLA shareholders will vote down Elon’s new proposed comp plan at the Nov 6 shareholders’ meeting.”

He added an alternative perspective from Wedbush’s Dan Ives, who said that he had a better chance of starting for the New York Yankees than the comp package not being approved.

Black’s the Future Fund sold its Tesla holdings earlier this year. He explained that the firm believed the company’s valuation was too disconnected from fundamentals, citing the P/E ratio of 188x and declining earnings estimates.

The firm maintained its $310 price target, and shares were trading at $356.90 that day.

Shares closed at $452.42 today.

The latest predictions from betting platform Kalshi have shown Musk’s comp package has a 94 percent chance of being approved:

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Tesla analysts are expecting big things from the stock

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Tesla analysts are expecting big things from the stock (NASDAQ: TSLA) after many firms made price target adjustments following the Q3 Earnings Call.

Last Wednesday, Tesla reported earnings with record revenue but missed EPS estimates.

It blew delivery expectations out of the water with its strongest quarter in company history, but Tesla’s future relies on the development of autonomous vehicles, robotics, and AI, which many bullish firms highlight as major strengths.

The earnings call reiterated those points, along with the belief that Tesla CEO Elon Musk should be rewarded with a newly proposed pay package that would enable him to gain $1 trillion in wealth if he comes through on a lengthy list of performance tranches.

Nine Wall Street firms made adjustments to their outlook on Tesla shares in the form of price target increases since last Wednesday’s call, all of which are indications of big expectations for the stock moving forward.

Here are the nine firms that made moves:

  • Truist – $280 to $406, reiterated Hold rating
  • Roth MKM – $395 to $404, reiterated Buy rating
  • Cantor Fitzgerald – $355 to $510, reiterated Overweight rating
  • Deutsche Bank – $435 to $440, reiterated Buy rating
  • Mizhuo – $450 to $485, reiterated Outperform rating
  • New Street Research – $465 to $520, reiterated Buy rating
  • Evercore ISI – $235 to $300, reiterated In Line rating
  • Freedom Capital Markets – $338 to $406, upgraded to Hold rating
  • China Renaissance – $349 to $380, reiterated Hold rating

The boosts in price target are largely due to Tesla’s future projects, as Roth MKM, Cantor Fitzgerald, Mizuho, New Street Research, and Evercore ISI all explicitly mention Tesla’s autonomy, robotics, and AI potential as the main factors for its price target boosts.

Cantor Fitzgerald raises Tesla PT To $510, citing Cybercab, Semi, and AI momentum

It is no surprise that many firms are adjusting their outlook on Tesla shares considerably in an effort to prepare for the company’s transition to even more of a tech company than a car company.

The issue with many analysts is that they treat the company’s vehicle deliveries as the main indicator of value.

However, Tesla has a robust energy division, which was a major contributor to the company’s strong margins and gross profit in Q3, as well as its prowess in robotics and AI.

Additionally, the company is seen as a key player in the autonomy field, especially after launching driverless rides on a Robotaxi platform in Austin and expanding a similar program in the Bay Area.

Tesla shares were up over 5 percent at 12:18 p.m. on the East Coast.

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